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Anyone complete their London Gray or Frosty Carrina counters yet?

Posted by blondelle (My Page) on
Wed, Mar 20, 13 at 17:09

Would love to see photos. I just got my Caesarstone samples and they are both so pretty. I have some marble subway tile that is China White I think that matches the London Gray perfectly. It is less busy and a whiter background than carrara. It's a 2 x 4 tile from Crossville.

I know another gal after seeing the two together chose the London Gray as she felt it looked more like real marble. I just have 4" x 12" samples. If anyone has seen both of these slabs up close and personal, which looks more like marble to your eye?


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I think it really depends on the look you are going for. I really liked Frosty Carrina more because it seemed lighter and airier than London Gray. If I wanted more of a contrast with my creamy white cabinets though I would go with London Gray.


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I have seen both FC and LG slabs. I like both, but for me the London Gray gives me more contrast. This first pic is FC slab. The pics didn't show the differences well, but here they are anyway.


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Here's the LG slab


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Closeup of LG.


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One more. My LG sample with door color samples. I'm choosing the color on the left.


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Definitely the one on the left. Looks great!


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GigiBozo, thanks so much for the photos. They are very helpful. I like the veining better in the LG as it's more diffuse and realistic in the LG, but I also like the whiteness of the FC better too. My sample of the LG has a lot less going on than yours and it lighter than it looks in your photos. It won't look as dark against the white cabinets as it looks in your photo.

I just was able to simulate what the counter would look like on top of my Adel White doors and I like the FC better with them. That's in natural light though. Whites change a lot in different lights so it's so frustrating to choose. I didn't want to go that grey even though the LG is still lighter than their Misty Carrara. I do like both though more than the Torquay which has all those dots.

What backsplash are you going to do with the LG? It doesn't have enough going on for a white subway tile, and seeing them with the white marble subways the FC works better with them. The LG is a little too dark. Funny they looked OK together in the kitchen lighting.


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I haven't shopped for the backsplash yet. I keep looking at my samples and the LG appeals to me more. For a while I was still trying to find a natural stone with a marble look, but any time I found something that made me smile it was way too expensive. This is a home that we are completely renovating as a weekend/summer home and the quartz is calling to me more and more, especially for the easy care. It is after all the place I want to go to to leave my worries behind and relax.


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I just got my price quote and for 3 slabs of London Grey or Frosty Carrina (both new colors) the price was $7000 compared to $4600 for Misty Carrera. Apparently, there is a huge price mark up for the new colors. Agh!


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I just got back some quotes for the new Caesarstone colors and they were quite a bit higher... my CS Concrete was $3900 and these new ones came in between $5900 to $7700. Quite an increase -- I'm investigating the root cause here (there may have been a slight area difference)

This post was edited by gooster on Fri, Mar 22, 13 at 19:21


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Are you guys going through Ikea for your Caesarstone? Right now they are having their kitchen sale, the discount really helps on the typically high price of Caesarstone.


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OMG, I had no idea the new colors were that expensive! That's quite a difference. I have a small kitchen and won't even use a whole slab though. If worse comes to worst the Blizzard white will also work nicely with the marble subway tiles.


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They really should not be that much of a gap. When I look at the costco pricing structure for my area, the Group C choices are only $6 per square foot more than the lowest tier. Thus, I'm thinking something is off with my quote (or I'll just get a quote from Costco as well. They too are running a sale)

This post was edited by gooster on Fri, Mar 22, 13 at 23:56


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Are those prices just for the slabs or for fabrication and installation, too?


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erinf8 -

I am in the process of getting my Ikea kitchen installed. I planned on getting the Quartz somewhere else, because although my local Ikea carries Caesarstone, they don't have the new colors.

When I priced the marble-like colors I just couldn't justify spending that much. The lowest I found was an LG quartz, but that was still $1.000. more than Ikea. I'm only going to be in the house another year or so.

So yes, I did get my Quartz at Ikea. On sale - $3600.00 for 62 square feet, including the sink cut out. I ordered Organic White. I'm hoping it's installed next week.

Bonnie


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Gigibozo,
Your kitchen is going to look great. Can you tell me more about the frosty carrina in person. I am getting dark mocha cabinets and want alot of contrast. Was initially going to get Blizzard but saw so many bad reviews about staining and chipping that decided to get something with a little bit of variation. Seems like the frosty carrina is a little darker than Blizzard but how white does it look? I want something that looks pretty white against my dark cabinets, I am scared it might be a little too creamy looking. The online picture that ceasarstone shows makes it look really white. I am excited to see your kitchen, the cabinets on the left look great with the London Gray.


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The Frosty Carinna isn't pure white. It's an ivory with a slight green tinge to it. Caesarstone makes a color whiter than Blizzard. Any white will look much whiter against dark cabinets. Do you really want a blinding refrigerator white? Even their whitest white isn't pure white and will have the same issues as Blizzard. A softer white is easier to live with and easier on the eyes.

How much veining does the FC really have? My sample just has two thread like veins on it. Are there areas of heavier veining, or are the veins all thread like and just scattered far and wide on it?


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Yea, I guess I don't need a blinding white and Blizzard is a fine white but a little lighter than how the Frosty Carrina sample looks so was thinking would wear a little better. I don't see much veining in the Frosty Carrina sample and it's very hard to tell from the photo of the slab how much veining there is, but I think it does look really pretty. I am also looking into KSoul glossy by Eurostone and am waiting for a sample of that and I am trying to get a sample of Bianco Venato by Vicostone and to see if they sell it in my area because it looks whiter white more dark veining and looks very beautiful. I need to make a decision on these darn countertops, this is ridiculous.


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Here's a photo of a whole slab. I guess it's hard to see the look from a sample and mine was 4 X 12.


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Thanks. This is very nice and it doesn't look like it just repeats itself over and over within the same slab. It just looks so much more natural to me than either the Lyra or the Torquay. Even tho it is a little creamier than I thought I wanted, I may end up going with it because it really is beautiful and I think on top of dark mocha cabinets it will rock!!


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sweetmelba: the prices I've quoted are just installation, not demo or plumbing hookup.


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Here's a link to a larger photo of the slab,

Here is a link that might be useful: Frosty Carrina Slab


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Kristy - the FC does have a creamy background and I feel like the veining on it is more noticeable than the LG. Looking at them both side by side, I liked them both for different reasons. If I were going for anything other than white cabinets, I would probably go with the FC.

I did put the FC sample up against my walnut stained cabinets here and it looks really nice. I also have a sample of a white marble look called Chroma Latticed Polished. I think it is the label of the stone supplier which is European Granite and Marble Group. You can probably google it. Anyway it a little whiter than the FC with a cleaner background and the veining is more golden/taupe. Not sure where it ismade.

My pricing for 2 slabs, fabricated for a u-shaped kitchen with a small island, farmhouse sink, and cooktop cut out was 7200. I live in CT so I'm sure pricing varies somewhat by region.

Hope any of this helps.


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Thanks Gigibozo,
I cannot find the Chroma but I don't really want the veins to be golden/taupe as I prefer the gray so I am not going to spend time looking for it. I think the LG is going to look great with your white cabinets. I am seriously considering the FC and my husband loves it. The cabinets are going to be dark mocha so I think it will look fantastic. I had my heart set on a very white, but I think this will be quite a contrast already. Wow, 7k, that is expensive. I live in California so I'm sure it will be up there here as well. I cannot wait to see how your kitchen turns out. I hope that some people who order the FC and LG will post pictures soon.


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kristieschultz: If you are in northern california, I've seen something called Chroma at Bedrosians and Pental at IRG. I don't know if they have the new colors yet. (I think they all remarket the same product under different brand names.)


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If anyone could share pricing that would be great. I have seen a few posts which reference what they are paying per slab, but how big is the slab?

I am getting bids bewteen $75-80 dollars a sqft installed for Frosty carrina as long as its over 25 sqft. Anything under 25 sqft is coming in around $115.00 (they require 25sft minimum) so anything under 25sqft you get dinged pretty good.


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I am also trying to decide what to use on my island, which has a brown/gray stain (so a dark color, and I want contrast). I am looking at Blizzard, organic white and then real marble, which is scaring me off with all the talk of etching, etc. I am looking for easy maintenance.
I have Blizzard in my kid's bathroom. It has been in there for almost 3 years and it looks like the day I put it in. No chips, stains, or anything. I'm sure a kitchen would see more wear. I'm more concerned with it just being boring.
But I am choosing a limestone backsplash that has white and taupe color, and Caesarstone pebble on the perimeter, so maybe I should go more low key on the island anyway.


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Hey JAM SF, post us a picture of your backsplash and cabinet color if you have it, so we can see what they look like. Are the perimeter cabinets also dark?? I've never had real marble but on an island I imagine you would have issues. I love how it looks but like you, am scared of the wear, etching, scratches, staining, all those issues that I DO NOT want to deal with. I googled the ceasarstone pebble and it is beautiful!!! I'm still trying to decide between Frosty Carrina, Eurostone Ksoul and Vicostone Bianco Venato. I'll post pictures of all the samples when I get them, which hopefully will be in the next couple of days.


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I'm out of town right now so can't post photos. Mt main cabs are white with the pebble, then my island is a gray/brown and I wanted to do something interesting but low maintenance. Can't be busy because my backsplash is limestone.not many things fit the bill!
My contractor said his fabricator didn't like the Pentel quartz but I don't know if that's really true since its second hand info... I liked some of their colors too.


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Well Frosty Carrina is light, a little darker overall color though than organic white, not as bright white as that, and has grey veining on the marble, not too much veining. Do you have a sample of it. You can order a good sized sample for $11 online at the ceasarstone website. Also if you go on the ceasarstone website, it shows a big picture of the frosty carrina with dark cabinets. Sounds like your kitchen is going to be really nice. I'm thinking you may want to keep the island countertop subtle with all the other stuff you have going on but Frosty Carrina seems subtle so it just may work. I've decided to go with the frosty carrina and will be picking out my backsplash and floor this week and I will post pictures of all of this within the week for feedback :)


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As far as Pental, that is interesting that your fabricator said that. I wonder why? I was finally able to get ahold of the distributor in my area and will be picking up the sample from them of a color they call "Venatino" on Monday and I will post a picture next to frosty carrina. Apparently this PentalQuartz is made by Vicostone.


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He said that his fabricator said it had lines or bubbles under surface and didn't like it- I really liked stormy sky but the sample did have some strange dust speckles in the stone- looked like a mistake. No other colors seemed to have that problem. I saw the entire slab as well and it had them too.
Frosty looks nice I will check it out.


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Here's an installed Frosty Carrina in our white kitchen. The white worked perfectly for the colour of our cabinets. We're having a marble backsplash installed shortly. The FC looks white until you put it up against a statuario marble and then you can definitely see that it's an off-white. We managed to find a marble that works well with it.

We didn't pay a very large premium for it here in Canada. This installation and stone cost us $4200 with tax.


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NessaB, what kind of edge did you go with? I finally had the fabricators measure for London Grey 5000 today and they gave me the hardest time about using an edge similar to yours! I am wanting a 4cm edge mitered, with corners like yours. I'd love more info on your kitchen! Thanks!

I'll post pics of mine when it is complete. We are about 3 weeks behind schedule... living without appliances since January!


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NessaB, what kind of edge did you go with? I finally had the fabricators measure for London Grey 5000 today and they gave me the hardest time about using an edge similar to yours! I am wanting a 4cm edge mitered, with corners like yours. I'd love more info on your kitchen! Thanks!

I'll post pics of mine when it is complete. We are about 3 weeks behind schedule... living without appliances since January!


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Our London Grey countertops are being installed on 5/3! Cabinets are anxiously awaiting.....


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Elbyphoto, I'm looking forward to seeing your countertops. I am very close to ordering the LG.


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Eleven gables- it's a 4cm edge on our counter. We went squared off because the cabinets are shaker.


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Holy cow, I need help! I was just advised, literally minutes ago that there would be a seam on the countertop...wait for it...in the MIDDLE of my sink. Now I will mention that the install is tomorrow at 9AM. WHAT SHOULD I DO!?!?!?!?


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They suggested that if I couldn't live with the seam, that I buy another slab. My counter space is about 31 sq ft. I don't understand how I would need another slab with such a tiny little kitchen.


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Did the installation happen?


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Our install is scheduled for 5/16. Can't wait!


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That's unfortunate, elbyphoto. I know the Caesarstone slabs run small in height. Hope you can work it out with them.

I had not seen this thread with actual slab photos. It's good for perspective to seem them as a slab-realizing color isn't true on computers.


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Elby--good luck! We are all eagerly awaiting the install!


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Well, after talking to my contractor, he said quartz seams are not that noticeable, I decided to chug forward. I'm sure you all can understand that when you have been living without a kitchen for a while, you start to rationalize differently.

Well, they came, they installed, and my husband was there snapping some pics. The seam ended up being a major problem afterall because they did not make a clean cut. They chipped AND cracked the front of the countertop. They came out to "fix" it yesterday, and basically said they "did the best they could." Now dealing with trying to get compensated or get a new slab. We'll see what happens.

Sorry these pictures are cell phone pictures. I need to bust out my nice camera so you can get a better read on the colors. It looks a little more tan in the pictures. It also reads a lot like misty carrera to me, with just the added veins, in my opinion.

I'll post a better pics later today or tomorrow.

Here are the countertops under natural light. Don't mind the black thing on the countertop. It was a piece of paper.


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Also, I wanted to re-iterate what I've read on the web plenty of times, but did not abide to: THE CHEAPEST PRICE IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST OPTION.

Kitchen under artificial light.


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Picture of London Grey snapped by my husband during the install.


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A picture my husband took just after the install was completed.

Overall, I have to say, the London Grey is very beautiful. It is hard to describe, but overall it does not give off the "feel" of real marble. I do not mean that in a negative way, though. It feels like it is in a class of its own.

One we figure out the result of the crack, we'll finally get to put a backsplash up. Thinking of doing a penny tile similar to Young House Love (linked).

Here is a link that might be useful: Young House Love Penny Tile Moss


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I'll include this picture to go with my previous disclaimer. THE CHEAPEST PRICE IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST OPTION.

Here is the seam of the Caesarstone London Grey. Looks kinda dirty. Also, see the chip and the crack. This picture is after they tried to repair it. They tried to fill the chip with....wait for it....super glue.

I suppose my advice would be to try and not have any seams, even if that means you have to buy another slab.


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I'm so sorry to read this, elbyphoto. Your fabricator/GC better step it up for you and redo that entire area.

On aside, you don't like your lighting either (artificial light)? Is it halogen, fluorescent or LED? Can you change out the bulbs or is it dedicated?

I'm researching kitchen lighting now, and LED is being pushed not just for under-cabinet but overhead recessed. I'm skeptical for using it in the can lights. It's hard to look up at on the eyes.

Hope your day goes some better today.


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Thanks SparklingWater. Actually the lighting does not bother me; they are regular indoor flood bulbs in the cans (supplied by the contractor), but I will be switching them to CFL. He didn't realize they now sell dimmable CFL's. I only know this because I worked for a lighting company for 7 years. The undercabinets are dimmable LED, and I love them! I haven't seen LED recessed lighting in person, but I have halogen recessed lights in my living room. When you look up at them, it is like staring straight into the sun! They are also very hot, where LED is not.

I think my contractor could have brought the furthest cans away from the cabinets a bit, since they are a new install, but overall I am just happy to have some light in there. My kitchen and dining room had such a measly amount of lighting. It was always yellowy and hard on the eyes! I'll post a before picture just for fun.

This post was edited by elbyphoto on Thu, May 9, 13 at 13:38


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Nessa, I missed your earlier post but I see you've used the Frosty Carrina. Would you mind posting a closer view of the FC so I might see the veining? I don't have much veining in my sample. Is there much? Hope you come back and revisit the thread. Anyone else use the FC that can post a photo of it to show a closer view to see the veining?


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My London Grey photos are up!

Here is a link that might be useful: LG


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All - I would also love to see pics of your finished kitchens with the various Caesarstones installed. Or depending where you are in the process, at least those of your counters installed. If my tracking is correct, here's what I show:
FC- kal34, scooter1923, NessaB
LG - Eleven.Gables, elbyphoto
Organic White - erin f8
Misty Carrera - IIiN

Also, blondelle and gigibozo - yours too, whatever you chose.

If you've posted and I missed it, please direct me to the thread.

I was going to go with Raven, but now I am torn!

Thanks a million!!!


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Here is my misty, I'll see if I can find one closer up!


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Close up


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IliN, your kitchen ended up looking beautiful! Did you end up liking your floors? What brand of pulls did you use?


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We used London Grey to flank our range. We will be posting finished pics soon. In the mean time here is a link to photos we posted previously.

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg081425281125.html


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Did anyone install the frosty carrina with dark cabinets? I am trying to find photos to see if this is what I want and cannot find many???? thanks.


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Kristieschultz, I'm curious to know how your kitchen turned out. We seem to have the same idea--dark cabinets with Frosty Carrina counters. I'm afraid that the FC may be too creamy for me, but I love it anyway. Did you go for it? How did it turn out? I'd love to see pictures! Thank you!!!


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Also trying to find frosty carrina pictures, not many out there...


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Hi, I love London Grey, but I have white formica counters right now and they show EVERYTHING! I hate them and am chaing them out.

For those that have LG, is the slightly gray background and marbling enough to hide dirt and food decently? Or does it show every little thing? I don't want to get into the same trap I am in now, but I love the light look. Help! Thanks!


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I'm going with carrara for my bathroom counter but I was very impressed with how beautiful and natural looking London Grey is, none of the little quartz bits I have throughout my Caesarstone in the kitchen. It doesn't feel like marble, but unless you have both in your hands to compare, it doesn't really matter. It's a really great look.


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Anyone installed Bianco Drift from Ceasarstone? I would love to see a kitchen with this quartz as that is the one we are likely getting to go with our two toned kitchen (off white perimeter cabs and dark stained island).

Carol


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I also would like to see installation of Caesarstone Bianco Drift.


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