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Posted by don_b_1 (My Page) on Thu, Nov 10, 05 at 12:12
| Hi,
The model 113.29411 radial arm saw that I've owned forever is finally giving me a problem I can't seem to fix. Hurricane storm surge is ultimately to blame along with my failure to completely dismantle it earlier. Although no part of the saw got dunked, salty atmosphere and fumes from a bunch of melting fertilizer got to it. It was working just fine following the storm but after some time with limited usage, the elevator locked up on me.
I've taken it apart, cleaned, lubed, and polished everything (including tube, column, key, keyway and elevtor crankshaft with emery cloth) and replaced a bad elevation shaft/gear. Everything is slick and smooth as can be but the elevator still won't raise/lower the arm. It's as if the gears aren't meshing together tightly enough. The crankshaft gear has no visible wear.
Anyone have an idea on this thing? Perhaps there's a certain crucial alignment combination of tube with the column that I've not cracked yet?
Thanks,
Don |
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RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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Never even seen that saw much less worked on it but I have an idea. Could one of the gears be spinning on its shaft. Perhaps a broken key or pin through the gear and shaft? |
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| Thanks Joe. I just figured out the magic combination. Once I lowered the tube completely into the column and screwed the elevation shaft ALL the way up into the tube with no cheating, it worked. The last inch of that maneuver is a real pain. Must be done with fingertips on a tiny nubbin of the shaft that pokes out only enough to hold a c-clip, No room for pliers. I would have been much cheaper to trash this one and buy a new one, with all the time I've spent goofing with it, but they quit making stuff like this a very long time ago. All cast iron and an easily rebuildable motor. Weighs a ton. Don |
RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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| just curious, how old is your saw? i have a creftsman 9" that i bought new in 1970, still works perfect but of course no one makes 9" blades anymore that i know of.i use 8 1/4 |
owwm
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| Don.....at Old WoodWorking Machines you can download a PDF instruction manual for the 113.29411......the reproduction of the 23 page manual does not list a publication date.......A manual for the same/similar saw.....the 113.29410.......lists a publication date of 1967........ http://www.owwm.com/files/PDF/Craftsman/113-29411.pdf Hudval........Forrest makes at least a couple 9" Combination blades......Try the: WW09307100.....9".....30 Tooth......5/8" arbor WW09407100.....9".....40 Tooth......5/8" arbor |
RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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| Not near mine to read the model number, but mine was new in 1964. Replaced the switch once. Probably now unavailable. |
RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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| Your saw is covered by the recall at radialarmsawrecall.com. For yours and many other models, they will pay you $100 to retire the saw. You mail the motor to them at their expense, and keep the table and accessories. For anyone who owns a radial arm saw that cannot be retrofitted, ETC will provide $100 for the return of the radial arm saw carriage/motor assembly. Details on this offer can be obtained by calling toll-free (800) 511-2628. Sears should not be contacted because ETC is handling this program. |
Here is a link that might be useful: radialarmsawrecall
RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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| Radial arm saws are being recalled because they are dangerous. the full depth of the blade is exposed. It is dificult to make an effective blade guard. I don't think anyone makes a radial saw aimed at the consumer market anymore. (delta makes expensive commercial models). If you are comfortable working with the radial arm saw as it is without a blade guard, it is worth a lot more than $100. A radial saw is better than a table saw for making precision cuts on wide pieces like cabinet doors etc. I used a radial saw for 20+ years and still have all my fingers and toes. A radial saw is also very difficult and dangerous when trying to rip long boards legthwise. You pretty much have to buy at least a cheap table saw for ripping boards. I do have a couple minor scars from learning that lesson. |
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| "If you are comfortable working with the radial arm saw as it is without a blade guard, it is worth a lot more than $100. " In my area (Sacramento), working Craftsman RASs are frequently available for $50-100, sometimes less. Considering the problems with the OP's, I would suggest he replace it with one that works; that could be paid for by the recall. Good ones may be in lower supply and higher demand in the hurricane zone, though. |
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| I have a Sears Crafstman 10-inch Radial Saw Model 113.19770. I have misplaced the thin wrench that is used to change blades. Anyone know where I can find one? |
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| I've had good luck getting parts for a similar ( maybe the same ) RAS- try sears.com, I entered your model number, It looks like the wrench is about $9.00 IF they have it in stock. |
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| Does anyone out there have a Craftsman Radial Arm Saw that was made in 1970. If so can you tell me where I can get a pull-on/push-off switch? Thanks for your help. Harvey Harriman |
RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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| Hi all it seems as though the radial arm saw (my favourite) has been recalled due to a number of incidents...seems like a pretty large oversight not covering the blade...hope everyone here is ok.....the full story is with the link http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml01/01031.html stay fingerful Christian |
Here is a link that might be useful: Woodworking saw blog
RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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I have a 1964 Craftsman radial saw and instruction manual, and am looking for the parts to make it into a drill press. Does anyone know if Sears has the secret back room of the storehouse for old parts or know of anyone that deals with the parts for these machines? Thanks for any help you can give. John Paulson |
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| "In my area (Sacramento), working Craftsman RASs are frequently available for $50-100, sometimes less." The recall puts a nice floor on the price. If soneone offered me a recalled saw for $50 it would be worth junking it to pocket the $100 'refund." "Considering the problems with the OP's, I would suggest he replace it with one that works; that could be paid for by the recall." The problem is that the newer saws have lousy bearings on the carriage, do not hold adjustment worth a darn, and despite the blade guard will still tun over you fingers just like a piece of wood. A table saw with a cut off sled does everything you can do on a radial arm, and is not width limited, just make a large enough sled. |
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| I've tried going ot OWWM.com to download the manual described in one of hte posts above. I can't find where to download the manuals. Anyone have any ideas? How difficult is it to replace the bearings on the Craftsman Radial Arm Saw 113.29410? |
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| This has been a very helpful thread. I have a Craftsman RAS I bought in 1985 and I'm told that my new blade guard is on the way. Thanks for the link and information. I don't use it too often and am very careful with it. Frankly, it kind of scares me. Not a bad state of mind to have with it, I guess. |
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| Just to follow up on the recall: I got the new blade guard (in a fairly big package- it includes wood for a new table!) just days after applying online. Unpacked it yesterday but haven't made the changeover yet. There's a very comprehensive installation guide/users' manual too. |
RE: Older Craftsman radial saw
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Mark, good luck with your 'nearly new' radial saw. I put off installing the safety kit for nearly 5 years. It's a great feeling to finally have it done & it even seems to cut better. That can't be, but it's nicer anyway. Enjoy, Don |
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