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poplar for kitchen cabinets?

jessie21
16 years ago

a local cabinet maker has told me that poplar can be a good choice for stained cabinets...that it takes stain well and is almost as hard as oak. i have heard of painted poplar for kitchen cabs but not stained. he seemed to be steering me this way, probably because i expressed some concern over price, but i don't want cheap looking or poor performing cabs. any ideas or opinions on this? or pictures?

Comments (9)

  • kmealy
    16 years ago

    Lie#1 it takes stain well
    Lie#2 is almost as hard as oak

    For a talented finisher, poplar can be faux finished to look like a number of other woods. For someone less talented, with a can of big box stain, it will look like poo. I don't know which category your local guy is in. Does he/she have samples you can see? Ones they've done, not something from a factory.

    Red oak is at historic low-prices right now. Many distributors are liquidating inventory at less than they paid for it.

  • User
    16 years ago

    Poplar is a hardwood. But, it is a very soft hardwood and not nearly as hard as oak.

    Poplar is usually referred to as 'The Painters Wood' since it can be easily sanded very smooth and takes paint very well.

    Poplar can be stained---with one glaring problem---most poplar has a dark colored section and a light colored section---which DO NOT stain anywhere close to each other.

    Kitchen cabinets get a lot of abuse, making them with a soft wood is not a recipe for successful long life cabinets.

  • jessie21
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    wow, you people are quick! thank you both so much for the info. i haven't seen his shop or work in person yet. he was here for a few hours the other day, discussing options...an older guy who has been doing this for 35 years or so. i will definitely not go with poplar, and i will check his work out sometime this week. i'll be cautious and may not use him at all. thanks again!

  • kmealy
    16 years ago

    BTW, Hardwood means it is from a deciduous tree. Softwood trees have needles or scales. There is also a difference in their seed. It really has nothing at all do to with its 'density' or 'dent resistance.'

    Chapters 3 & 4 below will give you all sorts of tables and information about just how soft poplar is.

    Here is a link that might be useful: More than you ever wanted to know about woods

  • brickeyee
    16 years ago

    "Hardwood means it is from a deciduous tree. Softwood trees have needles or scales."

    Yep.
    Balsa is a hardwood, while Douglas Fir and Southern Yellow pine are softwoods.
    Poplar is great for painted cabinets.
    It is easy to finish and holds paint very well.

    For a stained finish there are many other woods (both hard and soft).
    Oak has very pronounced grain and open pores in the wood.
    Other hardwoods have a smoother surface, but even oak can have the pores filled to produce a smooth surface.

  • bandit_tx
    16 years ago

    Tell him to try soft maple. It's not much more than poplar in most areas and it's almost as hard as hard maple. It takes dye stains nicely.

  • brickeyee
    16 years ago

    "Tell him to try soft maple. It's not much more than poplar in most areas and it's almost as hard as hard maple. It takes dye stains nicely."

    Anyone proposing to stain poplar is unlikely to be using aniline die for coloring.
    He probably throws on a coat of Minwax.

  • brickeyee
    16 years ago

    'dye' not die