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GFI breaker or outlet?

Posted by localhero (My Page) on
Sun, Dec 6, 09 at 22:33

I'm remodeling my kitchen and have run two new circuits to the counter top outlets. Is it a better choice to use a gfi breaker to protect each circuit or to use one gfi outlet on each circuit to protect that location and the outlets download of it?
I haven't priced the gfi breakers but other than price is there an advantage to either method?

Thanks,
John


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

The GFCI receptacle will be a bit cheaper. The labor is generally the same in most situations.


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

The breakers are usually more expensive, by a factor of 2 or more. Labor to put one in should be about the same. So it should be cheaper to put in one GFCI receptacle on each circuit and use it to protect the "downstream" receptacles.

Remember those small, counter top appliance circuits need to be 20 amps.


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

Yes, I've got 12/2 w/ground going to each circuit and haven't bought the new breakers yet but I know to make them 20's.

If I want two outlets in each box, I should be able to put 1 gfi next to a regular 3-prong outlet, yes? I don't think I've ever seen that configuration but I don't know why not...


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Side question....when I first started this thread I think I remember checking a box to be notified via email if there were replies. I never got any emails and I can't find any way to subscribe to this or any other thread. Am I missing something obvious? I've never seen a forum without a "subscribe to thread" option so I'm assuming it's there...

Thanks,
John


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

One other thing. a GFCI breaker is in the main panel and you have to go there to reset it. A GFCI outlet is right on the countertop, handier to reset.


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

"If I want two outlets in each box, I should be able to put 1 gfi next to a regular 3-prong outlet, yes?

The switch plates are out there.

A Decora switch on one side and a duplex receptacle on the other.


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

They make the plates as Brick describes, but you could also put in a decora duplex receptacle as well and the variety of plates available to you becomes much larger.


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

The power from the service panel comes into the GFCI on the "line" side. You feed whatever other receptacles you want to protect (in the same box or elsewhere) by feeding them from the "load' side of the GFCI receptacle. It's usually pretty clearly labeled and I know that Leviton has a little yellow sticker over the load side connections.

Remember too that there are some requirements for placement for countertop appliance receptacles. Very generally speaking, no point along the countertop should be more than 2' from a receptacle.

To the best of my knowledge there's no way to "subscribe" to a thread in this forum. Never tried the email method either.


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RE: GFI breaker or outlet?

I think the gfi breakers for my box are only $30 so I'll probably go that route and keep the kitchen outlets all looking homogeneous. I do see the point of having to go to the box to reset a breaker if it flips though.

As for the placement, I'll have them close to 4' apart except for the wall with the sink. That has a 7' slider window and the trim will just about sit on the backsplash so there's no room for outlets there. There will be outlets on either side of the window so given the framing, they'll be 8' apart+/-. Regardless of code, their will be plenty of outlets.

I did go into "my page" and again checked the box to recieve emails and I'm getting them now.

Thanks for the answers,
John


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