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Overhead light keeps turning off

gale1965
10 years ago

I have an overhead light with a fan. The light and fan are wired separately and the light is on a 3 way switch. We've had no problem for months (this is a new house) and today, all of a sudden, the light just shuts off. I flip the switch twice and it comes back on, only to shut off again after a few minutes. This is not happening with the fan or anything plugged into the outlets in the room. We checked the connections to the switches and they seem fine. I don't have any 3 way switches on hand to swap them out but could it be a bad switch? I'm hoping it's not in the wiring itself.
Gale

Comments (18)

  • jreagan_gw
    10 years ago

    There might be a thermal cutoff in the fixture. Do you have an over-wattage bulb or insulation too close to the fixture in the attic/ceiling?

  • gale1965
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    "Have you changed the lamp (light bulb)?"
    no. I didn't figure it was the light bulbs (there are three) since it comes back on when I flip the switch off and then back on.

    "There might be a thermal cutoff in the fixture. Do you have an over-wattage bulb or insulation too close to the fixture in the attic/ceiling?"
    The bulbs in it are the ones that came with the fixture and are the right wattage for it. I don't think the attic insulation is too close but that's something the builders can check. We've been in the house since the beginning of October and I've had the light on for long periods of time before this without this happening. It does not come back on after a while unless I flip the switch off and then back on so if it's a thermal cutoff, it isn't coming back on after it cools. How would I find out if this light has this feature? It isn't mentioned in the owner's manual. It's a Monte Carlo brand and the model is called Homeowner's Deluxe.

  • gale1965
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Also, it is a ceiling fan and light so the bulbs are well below ceiling level. Could it still be a heat issue? I didn't have the fan running at the time.

  • arkansas girl
    10 years ago

    Not sure exactly what you mean by a three way switch, you mean it dims it? Is it a dim-able bulb? The new bulbs are having trouble dimming. Try a regular incandescent bulb and see if that helps.

  • gale1965
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    It has two different wall switches that power the light. That's what I meant by a 3 way switch. We checked both switches. The light holds 3 incandescent candelabra based 60 watt bulbs.

  • Ron Natalie
    10 years ago

    Does this fan have some sort of logic that allows you to do clever things to switch the fan/light separately even with a single switch? That may be failing...

  • gale1965
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    No, the fan is on its own separate wall switch. The light has two switches (3 way switch). The fan seems to be working fine (I don't use it much this time of year so I just tried it out for a little while yesterday and it stayed on).

  • jreagan_gw
    10 years ago

    Oh, when you said "overlight with a fan" in your original post, I was thinking "bathroom light/fan in a damp environment".

    Reading the instructions from your fan, under the "lights do not work" section, I found:

    WARNING: Over lamping the fan will result in the fan lights shutting down until the proper wattage of bulbs are installed.
    Reset the lights by turning off the wall switch, breaker,or by remote. Replace bulbs with the correct wattage bulbs, turn the power on.

    So there is some sort of overwattage sensor. It is malfunctioned? Try removing ONE of the bulbs to reduce the wattage and see if they stay lit. If so, then you have the answer.

  • gale1965
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    I swear I read that whole book when we installed them and don't remember that. I'll try that today sometime. I'm very paranoid about using the switch too much. I don't know much about electricity and don't know what is or is not going to create a risky situation.

    thank you. :)
    Gale

  • jreagan_gw
    10 years ago

    I found it twice in the installation instructions. In the troubleshooting section and on the "step" where it said to install the bulbs.

  • gale1965
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    We took out one bulb and it still shuts off. So we took out another bulb, leaving only one. Still shut off. Took of the globe (which is open on top) and it shut off. Replaced the last 60 watt bulb with a 25 watt and it shut off. We left the switch on to see if it would come back on (after a cool-off period) and so far, about 40 min later, it has not come back on. I don't think it's the thermal sensor. I guess the next step is to replace the 3 way switches and see if that helps. If not, it's time to call an electrician. Thanks for all the help.

  • joefixit2
    10 years ago

    Cal Monte Carlo customer service and have them send a new light kit. We had this same thing happen on a customer's fan/light and we got a new light kit, problem solved

  • gale1965
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks. I will give them a call on Monday. :)

  • Jason Ong
    8 years ago

    Hi gale1965, I am having the same problem as you had before. I have tried to change the light bulb, reduce the number of light bulbs, wait for them to cool down, but problem still not resolved. May I ask how do you solve this issue eventually? Is the issue caused by the light switch? Thank you for your help.

  • gale_w
    8 years ago

    Hi. They sent me a new light kit. When I called they seemed to know the problem. After I replaced the light kit it never happened again.


  • toxcrusadr
    8 years ago

    That cutoff circuitry is in the light fixture and not in the wall switches. Which may be stating obvious since it's discussed in the fan manual. Anyway it has nothing to do with the wall switches, they don't do anything until you flip them on or off.

  • Michael Fitzpatrick
    7 years ago

    I recently purchased 2 Home Decorators Collection McFarland 60 in. Mediterranean Bronze Ceiling Fan from Home Depot. One is installed in my living room and works perfectly, the other is installed in my loft, and shuts off every 80 seconds. Flipping power off and on brings it back on, but it still shuts off after 80 seconds. Been an issue since installed. This is the only post I found online relative to what I have going on. I will be seeing if a new light kit will fix this. Thank you!