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permitted hot colors for residential wiring

mark_anderson_us
13 years ago

Hi All

I'm rewiring about 80% of my house (200A 120v). Most of the conduit is installed (code requirement) and I'll be starting to pull wires next week. The most cicuits in any conduit branch will be four.

I'll obviously be using White and Gray for Neutrals and Green for ground

I'd like to use different colors to easily identify the circuits in the same conduit (lots of pigtails). Is it OK (code-wise) to use *any* other color with the exception of balck, white, gray and green for a hot?

For example, my local Home Depot has Purple, Red, Orange and Yellow. Are these OK to use? (I know some colors have meaning in 3-phase, etc., but I'm assuming it doesn't matter for residential)

TIA

Mark

Comments (16)

  • kurto
    13 years ago

    You can use any color except green or white for "hot". Actually, you can use white, as long as you mark both ends in another color (except green) with tape or a marker. Of course, the most commonly used colors for single-phase residential "hot" wires are black and red.

    Normally, other colors (like brown, orange, yellow) are used for 3-phase, or higher voltage applications.

  • Ron Natalie
    13 years ago

    Kurto is right (except add "or gray or with three white stripes" everywhere he says "white.).

    It's the same for commercial use as well.
    Even three phase stuff commonly uses red and black for two of the phases....

  • globe199
    13 years ago

    My office (built in 1980/1981) has had a bunch of rewiring done lately. I checked out the old wiring whilst the boxes were open, and there are all manner of colours in there. Orange, blue, red, brown, purple, probably others. I would think that in a large building with hundreds of circuits and thousands of devices, it would be nearly impossible to keep everything straight without using colours. Now I sort of wish my house was wired like that :)

  • samneric
    13 years ago

    Actually kurdo and ronnatalie are both mistaken, or maybe they missed the part in the OP's post about conduit pulls.

    White and Gray wires are prohibited by NEC 200.7(A) from being pulled into conduit to be used as ungrounded conductors on 120v or 240v circuits - whether re-marked or not.

    Stick with using White/Gray for neutrals only.

  • Ron Natalie
    13 years ago

    Sam is right, I missed the "remarking" in kurto's post.
    If you're pulling in conduit, buy green, white, and at least one and many other colors as floats your boat

  • Ron Natalie
    13 years ago

    I find it convenient to have at least one spool for each conductor you wish to pull in parallel. Pain in the butt to do otherwise.

  • fixizin
    13 years ago

    SO... 'white' can be re-marked if it's in a CABLE, but not in a conduit?... hmmm... interesting...

  • Ron Natalie
    13 years ago

    That is true. The wording of the exception is:

    If part of a cable assembly that has the insulation permanently reidentified to indicate its use as an ungrounded conductor by marking tape, painting, or other effective means at its termination and at each location where the conductor is visible and accessible.

  • fixizin
    13 years ago

    Kinda persnickety and anti-conduit they be over at the ol' NFPA... ;') Gonna leave me wid a buncha white AWG14 THWN... lucky I got it b'fore the recent market manipulations, err, I mean natural price increases... :roll: ... because you know how red-hot the construction industry is right now... :roll:... yepper, all that new home construction izz puttin' a sharp strain on Chilean copper mining output... :rolleyes:

  • Ron Natalie
    13 years ago

    They're not anti-conduit but they figure if you're pulling individual wires you can pull the right colored ones. It's pretty hard to replace the wire in an already assembled cable.

    Tell me how mandating insulation color has any bearing on expense or amount o copper consumed? Actually, you get a better deal on copper pulling individual conductors as you might bet by with less in the grounding...

  • bus_driver
    13 years ago

    Back in the early 1980s, there was a place in Chicago that sold new but surplus wire at really bargain prices. Some of it was TW, THW, in #14 and #12. Harder to pull than THHN and fewer in a conduit. I bought a large supply for my needs. My RED spools came in maroon, pink, and rose, as I would describe the colors. Blue was anywhere from the colors of UNC to Duke.

  • Ron Natalie
    13 years ago

    Go Blue Devils.

  • fixizin
    13 years ago

    Tell me how mandating insulation color has any bearing on expense or amount o copper consumed?

    Well, let's say like bus_driver, you got "such a deal" on one huge reel of black THWN, and one equally huge reel of white... and you've got to re-wire several long EMT runs that each carry two 3-way lighting circuits tied to the same branch/CB, i.e. supported by a single neutral... you're going to consume 4 to 6 times as much black as white... and start casting furtive glances at your kids' Easter egg coloring kit, LOL. ;')

  • fa_f3_20
    12 years ago

    "SO... 'white' can be re-marked if it's in a CABLE, but not in a conduit?... hmmm... interesting..."

    Obviously it's an accommodation they made so that, e.g., romex can be used for a switch loop, since nobody makes 2-wire romex with black and red. I used to wish somebody would do so, but now that I'm doing home automation, I've gotten religion about having neutral at all switch locations, so it doesn't matter to me anymore.

  • terribletom
    12 years ago

    "Obviously it's an accommodation they made so that, e.g., romex can be used for a switch loop, since nobody makes 2-wire romex with black and red. I used to wish somebody would do so..."

    Try shopping in Canada for some 12/2 with red and black conductors. You might be surprised. :-)

  • ontariojer
    12 years ago

    We call it "heatex", usually used for electric baseboards or hot water tanks. It's available in 14/2 up to I think at least 3/2 for furnaces. Red/black/bare.