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| Trying to decide on window replacements for my home, located in Miami FL. The choice is between installing regular non-impact windows with accordion shutters, or installng impact windows alone.
My husband is convinced, based on one neighbor's anecdotal experience, that impact windows leak. As 'proof' he requested a sample impact window from a salesman, and upon its delivery he tested it (a single hung style) by laying it horizontally on top of two cinder blocks and using a garden hose to pour water until a thin stream came out the side. He then concluded it was leaky, and therefore impact windows do not work. As you can probably tell, I'm dubious about this. The salesman responded to the test by saying that ANY window will leak under those conditions, which actually makes sense given that windows are not meant to be bowls. Salesman said the weather stripping is what was letting water through. I've been scouring this forum and reading past discussions but haven't seen this particular issue addressed. To the experts on this board, any knowledgeable insight or guidance is appreciated. I am having trouble believing that PGT and other manufacturers are knowingly selling thousands of windows that are defective and which leak worse than the 'old fashioned' non impact windows. Another major factor in the decision: in my price estimates so far, installing non impact windows and accordion shutters will cost approximately 50% more than doing impact windows alone. Something that is definitely swaying my inclination! However if experts say that non-impact window and shutters are the best option I am willing to consider that. I hope and pray this window installation will last us for several decades of Florida storms. Thanks. |
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- Posted by millworkman (millwork4u@gmail.com) on Thu, Jul 5, 12 at 20:40
| The issue your speaking of has ever been addressed because in my almost 30 yrs in the window and door business I have have never heard of someone thinking that that is a way to test a window for water infiltration. While I am not familiar with PGT I can assure you that all window Impact or not will leak using that testing method. And that does not mean they will leak water or even air if they are a quality product with a quality installation. |
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- Posted by windowsonwashington (My Page) on Fri, Jul 6, 12 at 11:36
| While it is not the norm, the salesperson is 100% correct in that every window will leak under those conditions. Windows are not designed to be bowls in correct. I would encourage your husband to look up the criteria and testing of windows. It will make more sense after that. Here is something that I copied and kept from Oberon. It summarizes quite a few questions for you. In terms of which route to go, some might recommend impact windows and the storm shutters if you really want to protect the home. Some of the benefit of the impact windows is that you need not be home to "activate or pull down" the windows because they are always in place. Here is what Oberon say.... DP and Impact Window Discussion The DP rating of a window or door is based on laboratory pressure testing in pounds per square foot or psf. Second, (and re-restating) they are passive protection...not just from storms, but also from unfriendly people who might want to enter your home when you are not there. Imagine trying to break thru a window or door that has been designed and built to withstand winds of over 150mph and at the same time to withstand impacts from a 2x4 projectile that turns plywood into kindling. Burglars look elsewhere. |
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- Posted by runninginplace (My Page) on Sat, Jul 7, 12 at 9:04
| Thank you for the feedback--and for the very helpful information. Now that I have some data I can evaluate, and explain, in a more logical manner. I'm probably going with the impact windows. I just won't install them horizontally and aim a garden hose at them daily! |
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- Posted by windowsonwashington (My Page) on Sat, Jul 7, 12 at 10:09
| Ha! Well said. Good luck with the project and go easy on your husband. We try to be experts in all things but fall short some times. |
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