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| Hi - I did a search, but nothing came up that was recent, and with things constantly changing, I thought I'd ask your opinions on the sliding doors with blinds between the glass. We're currently looking at a Jeld-Wen product at Home Depot.
Are these reliable?
Our current set-up is a sliding door with sliding vertical blinds on a track. Based on the space situation, it would be real nice to get rid of those vertical blinds. Anyone have any suggested options other than blinds betweent he glass in a new slider? BTW - the sliding door is getting replaced one way or the other. |
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- Posted by EcoStarRemodel (My Page) on Mon, Apr 16, 12 at 8:50
| I don't like Jeld-Wen products. Their wood windows have lots of problems with rotted wood and their vinyl windows are builder grade. If you have a Sunrise Dealer near you, I would take a look at their patio door with mini blinds between the glass. Sunrise is a much better door. Has a top hung screen door, fiberglass reinforced, foam insulation filled sashes, heavy duty rollers and Cardinal XL stainless steel spacer. It also comes with a transferrable lifetime warranty that includes glass breakage. Sunrise is also one of just a few manufacturers that offers a hard coat loE glass with mini blinds. FYI, you cannot get argon gas with mini-blinds by any manufacturer that I'm aware of. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Sunrise Patio Door
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- Posted by GulfBreezeWindows (My Page) on Mon, Apr 16, 12 at 10:41
| Eco. Have you used the Provia Sliding doors with blinds? They are available to me, but have not sold/used them. Any advice on them? |
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- Posted by EcoStarRemodel (My Page) on Mon, Apr 16, 12 at 11:41
| Never used them. Most anything from Provia is of good quality however, the Sunrise doors are quite a bit less expensive and are also of very high quality. |
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| The only thing good I will ever say about Andersen is that I like their patio doors. I am not a fan of vinyl patio doors. I've just seen too many problems and service issues which I attribute to the immense weight and size, and this is regardless of manufacturer. I also think both the outer frame and the panel frames are way too bulky. A narrow profile vinyl door will have less frame strength and more problems. This is my experience and my opinion, and others here will disagree with me vehemently. Explore fiberglass doors. I think you will be pleased with what you find. Even Andersen is incorporating fiberglass into their designs. Provia, Marvin, that's where I would start. As far as the interior shades, I can't say. My instinct is based on the Pella slimshades, and Pella's quality has come down. I'm not a fan of interior shades. I don't blame you for getting rid of the vertical blinds. I have seen people putting up double cellular shades that they can lower at night for privacy. I like the cellular shades that not only raise from the bottom but also lower from the top. You can almost make a door like a window, letting in light but having lower privacy, and then when you want a door you just raise everything. Just some ideas. |
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- Posted by HomeSealed (My Page) on Mon, Apr 16, 12 at 15:46
| Sunrise makes a very nice sliding door with blinds as does HiMark/Okna. Both are reinforced and offer excellent performance. On blinds, what I would avoid are the magnetic rope operators. Major PITB to operate. Those are both very high quality vinyl doors (I would not recommend a lower grade vinyl door like those at HD for the reasons that Window Dog stated). Provia does make excellent doors as well, but you'll pay big $$$ comparatively. |
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- Posted by EcoStarRemodel (My Page) on Mon, Apr 16, 12 at 18:34
| I have never had an issue with a Sunrise patio door. I would rate it as probably the nicest patio door on the market including fiberglass. Usually when I hear an installer state they have had problems with a high end product, it's because they don't posses the skills to install it properly. |
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| 2 we have looked into with blinds in the glass are the Pella Designers and the Eagle doors. While we are now going with a single french door, we were pretty set on the Pella designer for a variety or reasons. I think we will go with the Designer french patio door with blinds. They use the "triple pane" (realy just a dual insulated pane with a 3rd gasket sealed pane, so not true triple glaze) but still fairly efficient for a glass door. we many like the blind function and options. Also it is esier to get to if/when something stops functioning on the blind and is not sealed inside of glass. |
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- Posted by EcoStarRemodel (My Page) on Tue, Apr 17, 12 at 1:10
| Lzerarc, Since you have decided to go with a swing door, did you have a chance to look at the Provia Doors? They are also available with blinds between the glass. |
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- Posted by windowsonwashington (My Page) on Tue, Apr 17, 12 at 7:28
| We see plenty of vinyl doors that are failing as well. I would not lump the vinyl doors that were discussed in this thread into the same build quality category. The vinyl door that we often use for our client has a Design Pressure rating of 60 and an air infiltration rate of 0.06. I cannot think of any fiberglass or wood doors that have similar data off the top of my head. |
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- Posted by EcoStarRemodel (My Page) on Tue, Apr 17, 12 at 8:00
| I agree, we remove many cheap vinyl doors that have failed. Some as little as 4 or 5 years old. I was recently contacted by a homeowner who had purchased several doors at Blue. The doors were so cheap and the install so bad that she is now having to replace them again. Blue told her there was nothing they could do about it. As with everything, if you purchase a quality product and have it installed by a professional who is consciencious about his work and possesses the skills and knowledged to apply the most madern and advanced installation techniques, then it's extremely unlikely you will ever have an issue. |
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- Posted by buckslayer (My Page) on Tue, Apr 17, 12 at 8:01
| Thanks for the insight guys. |
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- Posted by HomeSealed (My Page) on Tue, Apr 17, 12 at 10:04
| I'd agree that Provia or even Thermatru would be preferred for a hinged door. On materials, every material has its pros and cons. A low end product will result in a less than desirable final product either way, just as a high end product/install will result in a favorable one. |
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