We're on the other side of Lake Ontario from Rochester and up a bit from Toronto. Late November seems reasonable. You can't imagine how unpleasant (very cold hands) it is to chop through perhaps an inch (by then) of frozen soil and plant spring bulbs in mid December. As said elsewhere, I find no problem in overwintering perennials, planted in garden soil, in pots outside. Water up to the time of freezing. Ours do fine, frozen solid, in a protected place (e.g. against a wall) covered by the snow. As per Ken (not that he referred to this exactly), the soil in the pots should be about the same as the soil in the garden. As a general rule, here at least, plants grown in growers' peat-perlite mix should have most of it pulled off before being planted in the garden. Otherwise, here at least, the peat-perlite mix will freeze, in winter, at a different rate to the garden soil around the plant and the plant is likely to be killed.

Have you tried to send them an email and ask them what varieties they raise? That is where I would start. Good Luck! Dean

Here is my story about attracting bluebirds. About 30 years or so ago, there was an article in the National Geographic magazine about how the bluebird population was declining due to lack of suitable nesting spaces (old dead rotten trees). It included dimensions and directions for building a bluebird house that would be attractive to bluebirds, and restrict non-bluebirds. We had never seen any bluebirds around our place, even though they were the state bird. My husband went out to his little workshop, and measured and sawed and hammered, and put one of those birdhouses together. He went out to put it up, and as he was fixing it to the tree, there were two bluebirds flying around his head waiting to move in!!! So that was pretty exciting, and well worth it. And if you want to see bluebirds in your yard, I recommend putting up a house specifically designed for bluebirds. The worst that could happen is you will end up with a pair of bank swallows, but they are a lot of fun to watch too.

now I know what brugs are LOL angel trumpet or as they call them in germany trompetenblumen, I have one of those too . I am just terrible with names, someone asked me what my monarda is called and I didnt know thts beebalm, anyway its called raspberry wine now thta I checked . I went to the day lily farm sale this weekend and brought all my day lilies that I didnt have a name for for plant identification, I reintroduced myself as the lady that can't remember names LOL Angeltrumpet, a spike I brought in for 4 years and hibiscus How do you winter sew, I have grow lights and have started some things fromm seed for the first time this year, this is really only my third year gardening . I weeded all weekend long in the morning, by the whell barrow, I am getting roundup for along the edges, I don, want to pull another creeping charlie out of the rocks