um... Did you actually try contacting brian thru email? ive never had much trouble any of his plants, some are magnificent, but ive heard his customer service is great... It seems borderline inappropriate to dig up an old thread and slam a reputable seller, and head it like a letter directed to brians mail. I doubt seriously he will read your remark, but certainly his customers or potential costumers will, whats your objective? ive also got to say hes been really nice to me personally, breeds great plants, that i love and so few people work with or release new varieties. in regards to an expensive mistake...without even asking what you bought i can garantee brians price was better than 90% of his competition. Competition that are selling his ppaf plants... Shipping is awful but not his fualt, he combines and packs well. Im lucky hes in my backyard! Im planning a trip as soon as I can manage it! no S/H :D Ill leave with more than I plan to buy and need to come back and get more... seriously kathryn this is gardenweb not brians site, instead of slandering him here (at the briansbotanicals fan club lol) have courtesy to let the seller make things right in private, it seems likely the problem may not have been the plants...

Dh and I got 5 Palermos for our new build. They work great. My only complaint is that they can be a bit noisy when you flush and it's filling up with water. That only lasts for a few seconds though because it fills up pretty quickly.We had our minds set on Toto but quickly changed to St.Thomas Palermo.The rental apartment we stayed in for 10 months during construction had 2 Palermos and we were very impressed.My 2 little boys put them through some real tests, tissues etc and they never clogged. We moved into our new home 6 weeks ago and are still very impressed.Great price and they work great too.We are very happy with our St.Thomas Palermo.

Jasdip, some of the sites describing the procedure including Urologic Surgeons of Washington say something about what he may have experienced = "Bruising, sometime very dramatic, that is in the xxx (I'm leaving this body part out, clearly you weren't photographing that or you'd be in trouble ;)) or tracks around the flank is extremely common, and rarely of any concern", I don't find where they describe why. Your hubby's almost looks like it has fingerprints along the bruise. My brother had a rough 2 or 3 days (after feeling on top of the world the next morning when he was released) in Feb....rough time with whatever the gas is that is used to inflate the abdomen. I wonder if it couldn't end up different places in different bodies...and all he could do was wait until it was dispersed, by his body absorbing and then exhaling it. Hope this isn't too much information, but he likened it to pain of bloated and constipated, when in fact he had to wait to breathe the gas out. The bruise, combined with not feeling as well as the day before, must have been frightening. I hope he's doing better today. You too ...

I tried seed as well but although they sprouted easily they eventually died off. I bought these at Canadian Tire, believe it or not. The greenhouse that grew those is only a couple hrs drive away and sometimes grow plants that is not available anywhere else. I bought two of those, my sister bought one and a friend bought one. This is the only one surviving. The other plants died within a couple of years. This one is probablly between 10 to 15 yrs old. It has been moved three times and is doing well where it is now. It gets sun but also shaded a bit but this year we haven't had much hot weather and it has done great. It has too be moved because I am redoing my beds and I am conflicted because I don't want to lose it. What to do and where to move it!