Thanks for the responses. How toxic is Immunox/myclobutanil? The warnings of course make it sound horrible and our water comes from a well not far off. Unfortunately, there will be no getting rid of the cedars, for family reasons. And while the area around the trees is mowed and underneath is kept mulched and weeded, the rest of the field (and the surrounding fields) are basically tall weedy grass that gets mowed once a year. That's not going anywhere either unless someone gives me a brush hog and a tractor to pull it with. I guess the best bet moving forward is to try to spray at the right time(s) in the future. I'll look into the suggested sprays for this year, though. Randy - My William's Pride isn't bearing yet (just put it in this year). I've had them from farm stands though and thought they were good enough to try planting. I don't have any tasting notes or anything, though :) Anyway, I hope they're good. Thanks again. Sam

Check with your local newspaper office to see if they give away their leftover newspapers. We have picked up a lot of newspapers over the years (had one editor that refused to give them to my husband but he's gone now). Since you have lots of wind, don't shred the paper. Put the papers in a tub and add water then layer these with the manure. Wet newspaper does not blow around while you are adding it and manure will hold it down while it composts. You might consider putting a tarp over the pile to hold in moisture and prevent the contents from blowing away. I also put all junk mail, paper sacks, cardboard boxes, used paper towels, paper napkins, cereal boxes, etc. in my compost piles. I keep a paper grocery sack by my kitchen trash can so it is easy to sort then take sack and all to the compost pile when it is full. Don't forget to put the contents of your vacuum cleaner, hairbrush (my long hair generates lots for the pile). Just look around...you will find LOTS of things once you get started. How I envy your free manure! I have one rabbit so not much manure. Good luck! Peggy

There are some photos here... The spores are bright orange, not yellow and very powdery. If you look at the photos you can actually see little raised bumps. Every fall I go bargin hunting at the local nurseries looking for prennials I refuse to pay the full price for and a couple of years ago almost every Daylily they had was covered with rust, so yes nurseries can be a source of rust. If you decide to speay make sure you use a systemic. The first time I had it here I used a contact spray which looked like it was working but the rust kept coming back. I eventually gave up and let it run it's course. I am in Zone 5 so winter kills it. I had it in 2005, 2006, and 2007. I have since changed my buying habits and have not seen it again. I no longer buy from people in the south or areas without the extended cold spells it takes to kill it. If they buy new intros from the south I get them to send my plants out as early as possible to avoid their new plants sending it here. It is unsightly but I cannot say it has actually killed any plants here. I am sure it set some back and they did not preform as well the following years. Leaf streak can look like rust, look for the little RAISED bumps and the orange powdery spores. I was out in the garden this morning and saw 1 case of leaf streak that made me check to make sure that's what it was so even though you have seen rust a quick view of any miscolored leaves tends to make you think about it. It is not the end of the world either. Here is a link that might be useful: Rust

most pedestal table kits include just the legs and pedestal, and not the apron and base, so that would need to be built. Have you looked at lower end furniture stores, you may be able to buy the table, and remove the top to add the quartz top.