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| so I have a question...maybe its just me, id like to hear what other people think. so my fiance's 15yr old daughter wants to have people over tonight. At first she wanted everyone to sleep over...which would be 6 people at the most. she tells her dad that it will be boys as well as girls, and one of the boys is her boyfriend. ok, dad said no since the girls parents would not allow a sleepover if there's boys. then she goes off on him, and later cools off to call back saying that they'll stay til 2am and only her boyfriend will sleepover. when dad got off the phone with her i asked him why he would allow a boy let alone her boyfriend sleepover??? he said he wants to be fair?? i don't get it. i honestly think i have no say in it, since he made his decision without even talking with me. every sleepover has ended in them going out to the park and getting drunk or them being so loud til early morning. so im just baffled to see he didnt ask me what i thought before telling her yes. its almost like everytime hes scared to say no to her. i obviously live with him. and im pregnant, not sure if thats relevant. any thoughts??? |
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| No, it is not normal for a 15 YO to have her boyfried sleep over. It is not normal for them to go to a park drinking, they could get arrested (are you in the US?). But for dad to have a live in pregnant GF is not a good idea. We all understand the difference between teens and adults, but given teen hormones, this is not a good idea. IMHO. |
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| I will never understand parents that let their teens have anyone of the opposite sex sleep over or let their teens sleep over at a boyfriend/girlfriends house. I know teens may sneak out or lie about where they are, but it baffles me when a parent KNOWS and allows it... what are they thinking??? But, I agree that dad is setting a bad example by having a live in pregnant GF. Teens may use dad's choices against him to justify theirs. Doesn't leave much for dad to say... except "I'm the adult, you're not." but it doesn't even sound like he's standing his ground at all. Has he considered who's going to be the one to deal with an unplanned pregnancy? Isn't he worried about STD's? or just the thought of some boy laying up with his little girl? If I were having his baby, I'd worry about his ability to parent and make good judgments... |
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| Well, 15 is grade 10, hey? When I was in grade 10/11/12, a few of my friends lived quite a long distance from most of the rest of us, so there were sometimes co-ed sleepovers. I'm 27 now, so this was 10-12 years ago. My one friend's mom always had permission slips that our parents had to sign, that they knew it was co-ed, and that there was a swimming pool. We were supervised (parents would come downstairs a few times through the evening to be sure there was no hanky-panky). There were plenty of couples in my group of friends, but no one ever did much more than a little snuggling or a quick makeout - we were all more interested in having fun with our friends! My BF and I weren't allowed sleepovers, but he came to the cabin with our family, and I went RVing with his when we were 15/16. We wound up sleeping on the pull-out couch in the living room together, but that's a little different than spending an ordinary weekend night in a bedroom. Another friend had a BF who lived about 90 minutes away. He often stayed with her family for the weekend, and vice verse. They stayed in guest rooms, not in the same room. So, I guess my point is that it's OK to have coed sleepovers as teens... But that it's not OK to have drunk teenagers sneaking out and unsupervised alone at night. I also think that since you're an adult in the house, and part of (what I consider) the alpha relationship, you should get a heads-up when one of the kids in the house wants a sleepover or party. Your DH is her parent and sets the rules, but I understand why you're upset that he didn't bounce it off you. From your brief story, I think you're right that he doesn't want to say no to her. Here are some guesses why: I'm rambling now... I'll be quiet.
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- Posted by sylviatexas (My Page) on Sun, May 31, 09 at 15:29
| "only her boyfriend will sleepover" oh, well, that's *entirely* better than having a bunch of girls sleep over. bwaa haaaa hahaaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaa. Seriously... (I suspect she knows she's too young to drive, & her outrageous behavior, drinking, sleeping with boyfriend in her dad's house, etc, is the desperate plea of a young girl for *somebody* for heaven's sake to step up & give her some boundaries & show her some love.) Although kk's perspective is strictly toward the daughter, she made an excellent point; dad having a pregnant live-in girlfriend is not good for his daughter. *and* it isn't good for you. You need a husband to support you & your child, What you need to figure out is whether this guy has anything to offer in the way of support, commitment, & guidance. His behavior doesn't give any hint that he can fulfill a husband/father role. I wish you the best.
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- Posted by finedreams (My Page) on Sun, May 31, 09 at 15:55
| this dad is crazy and inappropriate letting minor child all these sleepovers. ceph please tell me you are kiding that you slept with your BF in the same bed (or pull out couch) in your or his parents house/RV at age 15. 15? I hope you get ages confused. 15? same bed? together? parents are there and are OK wiht it? I am a liberal parent so were my parents, but I have never heard of such a thing. just doesn't sound all right to me. |
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| FD asked: "ceph please tell me you are kiding that you slept with your BF in the same bed (or pull out couch) in your or his parents house/RV at age 15." Nope, I was 15, he was 16. We'd been together nearly a year, our parents knew we weren't having sex and weren't about to start. I guess the point is that well-supervised trustworthy teenagers sleeping in the same place isn't a big deal to me... But unsupervised is, and so is sneaking out to drink in the park. |
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| There are some teenage girls who can be trusted in a 'public sleepoever' type of situation, but not many. And there are some situations where that circumstance is more acceptable than others -- camping trips, vacations, school field trips. But a garden variety sleepover? No Way! Why don't you suggest they just get a motel room? That might open Daddy's eyes. This girl needs limits and boundaries. Otherwise, it'll be Daddy and his pregnant girlfriend and his pregnant daughter. |
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- Posted by finedreams (My Page) on Sun, May 31, 09 at 18:02
| well if some people do it, it doesn't make it normal. it is not normal for a 15-year-old to do that. it is not even about sex or funny business. just kind of funny. here is my mom and dad next door and here is me at 15 sleeping in bed with a boy and we are in sleeping bags or skiing suits or diving suits LOl funny picture. and mom and dad checking up if no hanky-panky. it is like a scene from a comedy. never knew anyone would do that. LOL OP's BF is out of line and need to provide his daughter wiht guidance. it is nice to be friends wiht your children, i am a good friend wiht DD, but this is overdoing it. and if BF thinks that she knows everything at age 15 then he is not mature enough to have children. not only he is raising this one wrong, he is expecting another one. he better does some thinking. even if there is no sex involved, she will grow up and remeber that dad didn't even cared enough to say "no" to stupid decisions she made. |
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| I think FD hit the nail on the head with this one: "it is nice to be friends wiht your children, i am a good friend wiht DD, but this is overdoing it." BF might be trying to be her buddy more than he's trying to be her parent. It's a fine-line to walk though. And this made me chuckle: My dad wasn't very good at parenting - he'd always had my mom to help him along, so when she died, he was a fish out of water. I still remember this conversation: I remember being baffled though, because most of my friends got the third degree from their parents about who would be there, if there would be alcohol, to call and check in each day, and so on. Part of me was happy I didn't have to deal with that "crap". The other part went "Huh? Why isn't he asking?" |
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