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Posted by nicethyme (My Page) on
Sat, Jan 7, 12 at 8:59

I had the good fortune of getting some nice glass tables from craig's list and am starting on the side table. I had some ideas while doing the last one and one of the owners of the Ciel gallery had asked if I might do another for their spring show... sooo

my hope is to create an illusion of depth by marrying several layers, ending up with 4 layers of glass, starting on a mirror. I want to have fish and frogs breaking through the surface... so I made a design to have one of the fish with its head up and a floating frog with head and arms up and a jumping frog with its head and arms going in. then I have one frog climbing out with just one foot in...

I had to do the design twice because the 1st try I had all the shadows equal (I was trying to cheat) but hated it,,, so I did a new tracing and placed the shadows according to how deep each thing was.

improved shadow placement

the bottom mosaic built on mirror will be epoxied to the bottom of the glass table top then I will mosaic the top of that. I am using a 2 part clear marine epoxy that has been well tested for clarity in mosaics and it's thick enough that it doesn't flow. My thought is that if I trap any bubbles,, it would be fine because its supposed to be water!

The table top is 1/4 and I checked to make sure the glass will look congruent when on top and bottom, they need very little overlap, about an 1/8 inch

testing over lap

I'm trying to finish my dolphin thingy before I go any further on this. but I did get the mirror made already, I decided I should get it professionally cut so the edges would be polished and sealed $$


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YOU Mad Genius You!!!! Loving it!!!!


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DITTO. Here she goes again off in a world I don't even understand. I don't know you, girlie. Just flat out speechless here.


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Yep, same here, she's off again in a world I don't understand, but I know the end result will be

fabulous!


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very nice work..unleash that imagination of yours.... I can't wait to see the end result.


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I don't understand what's going on in the picture. Is this actually gonna be a little pond? PLEASE tell us what you're up to in constructing this, cuz I've been thinking of making a small frog pond for inside my fireplace (taking out the gas elements etc.) and going wild w/the fireplace. Just can't pull the trigger yet.


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ooh, well that sounds amazing Slow, no no ,I'm just making another glass top table and thats the cartoon for it - it gets confusing because I have the shadows drawn on there too


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frog pond table, 1st layer


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You just LOVE to tease us. Please tell us what's going on in this picture?


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LOL, sorry, it was late. you see a headless fish on my work bench. He will be glued to the mirror and his head will be on the glass table top that goes over the mirror. Because he's got his head at the surface of the water. does that make sense?


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I'm sure the next posting w/clear things up for this old lady's brain. Anxious to see the next steps.


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This is such a cool idea! PLEEEAASSE! Light this up somehow,when it's finished...the whole tabletop, that would be so cool!oops, I guess with the mirror that would not work. Klinger has a backsplash that I have tried talking her into doing something similar to this idea, it is a tree of life, and being built up would look so cool!


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yeah the mirror changes the need for lighting. here is the mirror with all the animal parts that are in the water and shadows painted on.

frog pond table, 1st layer


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Wow! I get the 4 layers now! I've stacked 1/2globs to make a bunch of grapes before, and loved the way it turned out...especially after it was grouted!!!


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It amazes me how you have these visions and come up w/what you accomplish. What talent!!!


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well, lets hope I can pull this off


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Wow! I'm excited t watch the progress.
Kathy


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I'm so excited about the water color

frog pond table


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Freakin' Beautiful!!! I love all the glass you are using!


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Absolutely! Just look at those fins - so life-like.


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Wow, that glass is perfect!


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Yes!!!!


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made alot of progress today, finished the water, grouted the fish and frog parts... cutting clears to fill the spaces that are under the lily pads and fish head..

frog pond table, 1st layer

frog pond table, 1st layer

frog pond table, 1st layer


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I am so loving this!!!!!


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HOW did you do the shadows?


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Ernie, I painted them onto the mirror substrate


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I am speechless!!! I wish you were coming to Mexico with Slow, Klinger and me...I would LUV to meet you in person and give you a big hug for how much you inspire me!!! Jane


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ooh Jane, i would love to make that trip, if my kids were grown- I'd be there


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Unbelievable!!! Painting underneath - never w/have thought of that. You keep on surprising me. BEAUTIFUL work.


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Im a newbie and i just wanted to ask, do you cut all of your pieces to get them to fit so closely, or is it just an eye for puzzle piecing. The fish look to me like they are cut, but i was wondering about the fill, like all the aqua water? I would love to see a series of photos that show the process of filling in around a complicated shape. Lovely mosaic!


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Kiki,, I cut everything to fit... start by slicing sheets of glass into large wavy bars that vary from 2-3 inches then I hold one of those in the next area and mark it. With this because its water, the flow of the swirls follows a predetermined path, so I turn those bars and trim to make sure I have regular movement of both the grout lines and the color swirls of the glass.


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thank you Slow, Jane, Nana, Ernie and Kiki

I finished grouting this part yesterday and am planning to epoxy it to the table top tomorrow so that I can continue the mosaic.


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This is amazing work and I really look forward to seeing where you go from this point. I'm wondering why you used the mirror for the substrate as you could have just painted on clear glass (cheaper) or is the mirror going to be seen in the finished product? Hurry, okay? hahaha


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Thank you for the description of how you cut! Your illustrations and explanations are very informative and motivating. Im getting ready to set up an area where i can work, and im getting really excited about it! I keep checking back to see if you have made more progress!


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Mattie, gog are so effective when they can be back lit but in the case of a table the effect is lost because you have the ground "behind" it so the idea of the mirror is to bounce the light back out, lighting the glass. If anyone id following mosaicwench's new series of abstracts, she is building on mirror as well and thats where I got the idea. I had thought she was building on clears but wondered why it seems to be always back lit


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So I got up today, prepped everything and mixed up the epoxy... and it never turned clear... I tried a little on the bottom layer of my experiment piece and yes in very thin layers its okay but won't be clear enough for anything else... so I had the table all ready to go here

1st layer of the table ready for epoxy

then I racked my brain for what to do with all that resin , I couldn't stand the idea that it would go to waste so... I came up with a plan to fill a rubber glove

trying not to let a lb and half of resin go to waste

which, came out pretty cool,,, I think it can be shaped and improved with a dremel... maybe it will be a great substrate?

the resin hand

so I found out that I needed a different hardener to make it clear and ordered that, in the mean time I decided to go ahead and do the top layer mosaic, I just have to be careful to check the alignment regularly...

set the glass on and will finish the mosaic


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So beautifully and artistically worked. What quick thinking on the glove. I'm sure you'll use that piece in a unique way too. You're a real piece of work, girlie.


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Thanks Slow! I'm finally getting to see if this layering idea will work, I gave the yellow fish its head and worked on the rock. pretty cool! and I think the transition areas will be smoothed by doing some amount of water disturbance,, like ripples?

mosaic of the water surface underway


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WOW!!!!!! I don't even know how to comment...this is soooo interesting/amazing/overthetop!


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I have no clue as to what you are doing, but it suuuuuuuuuuure looks good and very interesting. WHAT an artist!!!!!!!!!!!


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LOL I am getting sooo excited over how its turning out AND last night I tried a little experiment and it came out cool... I can paint in duck weed on the table surface and when you lay the swirly clear glass on it - AWESOME! so I'm pretty psyched about that.. didn't take a picture and just scraped it away for now I want to save that till I'm ready to sit and do it all over...

last night I finished up a couple frogs and lilypads.. I got so thrilled about the frog's foot appearing in the water I ran upstairs and announced how cool it came out to my husband - he looked happy for me! lol I don't think he knows what I'm doing! lol

Frogs and foliage


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That frog is going to jump right out of the water!


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AMAZING - you are really something. I know how excited one gets when things work. I'm the OPPOSITE on my present project, and am glad it's OVER. This is so beautiful, NT. Hat off to you and your innovative way of working.


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OHHHH MYYYY!!!! I keep going from one pic back to the other....I get what you are doing now....WOW>Oh My. I can't talk....oh my...wow...


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LOL, it clicked for ya didn't Jane? yeah that mystery frog toe is finally connected to a frog! ... I got all the frogs done now and am pushing myself hard to finish the lily pads before snapping a pic.

My husband came upstairs last night and said he was in looking at the table.. (1st time?) and wanted to know how it will all work out to be level? I told him about ripples around the frogs and fish and the clear baroque glass I have for all the water surface. He said, are you going to do the other table to match? I explained that I had already come up with a design but that they could go separate or together... but wasn't planning on doing it right away (thinking about my expenses) he said I should try to get them both in the spring show... wow


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Wow! Hubby on board!!! Whoohoo! I had hubby help with the planter box...he just doesn't get it and so I have to tear apart what we did and start over....arg...been letting myself be sidetracked!ha!


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nicethyme - as calamity j says, Hubby on board!! Can't beat that! Keep that trend going; sure makes for smoother sailing. My hubby's on board right now with the big ol' sign I'm working on; he runs back and forth to Lowes and is a real help with installation problems, etc.


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yeah I like the show of support for sure!

layered glass table top, in progress

all that's left now is the clears - ripples


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Absolutely breathtaking. How I wish I could see this in person. The light green leaf upper left looks like it's floating on the water so plainly. And the frogs - definitely the stars here. You're a genius!


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I meant to paint a stem on that leaf last night and forgot it, got to remember to do that before I do the fill! Thank you Slow, ya know I cut that leaf out eons ago for my bathroom door and never used it... came across it while searching my green scraps and thought it might work. I was wanting to get away from that sterile appearance. I think next time I do a pond I'll try and add some leaf litter to the bottom layer too, but the water color would need to be more "pondish" to pull that off I think.

I just found Lexel at my true value so I'm going to go pick that up for the clear work... supposed to be 19 times clearer than GEll.


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I noticed that leaf right away! Man! You are making me miss my pond!!!ha! But spring is coming! Snowdrops are peeking up! I had to go back on the threads and read about the clear baroque again...one of my fav glass! This is such an innovative project....thank you so much for sharing it on this forum!!!


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NT: The stuff you're using - do you put it on a portion at a time, or over the whole piece? What IS it that you're using to layer? I believe you said it wasn't the regular resin that one pours. Pray tell again. Too tired to look through the whole thread.


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the resin is called Douglass and Sturgis... and its got a higher viscosity than the coating resins so it doesn't just thin right out... I'll end up spreading it on with a putty knife.

so far I've been doing the mosaic with GEll, like you do with the gun and putting a little out on a paper plate at a time and buttering my pieces. The Lexel comes the same way so I bought it in the canister too...


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It is looking so so good!!!


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Just looked at their website, and WOW. Too complicated for my addled brain. I so admire you for searching out new ideas and the way you work. You're my l'il hero, girlie.


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Darn...they don't sell Lexel in Canada...maybe Slow can find some and send it to me?? Sounds great! Now about that hand.....


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lol, that hand, yeah... I'm thinking about zentangling that hand, maybe.

I'm working on cutting and fitting all the clears and let me tell ya all, that baroque glass DOES NOT like nippers. so its score what you can and then to the ring saw! I have to resist nipping even the tiniest bit cause it follows those swirls... ugh!

I have all the ripples done here, but the big frog will get some TG too and now I'm just fitting the bigger areas

working on the fill


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Zentangle the Hand!!! Are you talking mosaic zentangle?!!! O.M.G.!!! So back to this project...so it is going to be about 3/4inch thick when you are done? Zowie...I just figured out how to enlarge the pics!lol! Sheesh, I should just hang my head in shame! lol!


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WOW the ripples. How your mind works!!!!! I especially LOVE LOVE LOVE that little froggie that's diving into the water, and OH LOOK - the one coming up outta the water. This is an absolutely amazing work of art. Have you logged the hours involved in it's making? Remind us where this table w/find a home?


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Good morning you two! Yes, Jane I'm figuring it to be about 5/8s when all is said and done. Slow, I tried to keep a log and it appears to be about 80 hours so far and approx 180 in materials (if you don't count the epoxy mix up...

I am hoping to get this table into the spring show at The Ciel gallery in N. Carolina. My sister can't believe I'm not keeping it but honestly I can't have something this valuable around, can you imagine a kidlet on a bike hits it or a branch blows on to in a storm,,, cripes I would sit and cry over the loss, better to sell it to someone who can buy art and handle that they have a table worth a thousand


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Lexel is some sticky chit! so I'm having a time of it, but it is clear!!!! and the bubbles are pretty cool too.

here's what the big frog looks like now

jumping frog, ungrouted


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I can't believe my good fortune- the first time I come to this forum, and this is the post I hit. I had no idea people could make things like this. Nicethyme, your ability to conceive and carry out such an amazingly complex design is inspiring. It's absolutely beautiful. Breathtaking. Unique! Words can't express. Thank you.
Renee


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wow, thank you Renee, welcome to the forum


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Amazing, truly amazing


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Yep is Amazing!!!!


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I had to read the WHOLE thread over...AGAIN!!!lol! Keep seeing so much more! Reread about the duckweed(Love it!)...had to go look at that painting artist goldfish guy!wow!


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What RENEE said. Truly amazing and ..... the list could go on and on and on. WHAT AN ARTIST!!!!!!!!!!!


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I keep re-visiting this post. I love this so much. That froggy is da Bomb! I have forwarded these photos to a fellow mosaic artist and she is just amazed. Fabulous.


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what will become of this masterpiece?
You have a large selection of glass colors. Mind if I ask where you shop? How do you know by mail order if it is truly the right color? that stuff is expensive!
There is something about the spotted fish, his 3 dimensions and the colors. The froggies are a great idea. How did you learn to do this?


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thank you all so much,,, I ran out of lexel with one piece to go so went for another tube. its all glued down now and I'm trying to set about the HUGE task of cleaning. the stuff is sooo sticky and I have alot of work ahead of me to get it ready for grout. and then epoxy...

Ernie I hope to sell this in a gallery show. I do identify and order particular favorites like the mottled Youghiogheny for frog skin. I love ordering glass I don't know, its such a fun surprise to open it! but we now have hobby lobby in the area so I bought a lot of this there. The 3D lessons came from a 3 day portraiture workshop with Carol Shelkin, where she teaches how to consider tones and color values in shading and how to decide the natural andamento of an object


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NT: This is the hand I made in Mexico at the course that changed my life(lol), it is about 1ftx1ft, and I gave it to a dear friend who says a snake in her garden curles up and basks in the sun on it!!!! How cool is that!!! ha! How does that saying go...a snake in the hand....;-)

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I called it the KingKong Arthritic Hand!lol!


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LOL Jane!!! thats the 1st time I've seen that project finished - I remember the pics in PV when it was mesh - THAT is COOL! it does look like King Kong, fancy that snake is playing Fae Rae! lol


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Hi! Quick question, what type of paint did you use to paint the shadows? It really looks wonderful! So many fun effects to look at!


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That is truly a work of art. It's just amazing !


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Kiki, it was glass enamal, but it really doesn't matter because i wouldn't give it the 24 days to cure anyways, being sealed in silicone under glass, any craft paint will work.

I grouted the greens and suffered some grout bleed so I have had to take off several pieces of clear, I cut them all down in size hoping there will be less bubbles. then I had to repaint the duck weed where I had scraped it clean..

uhhh 1 step forward, two steps back

grouted the greens and fixing some of the clears


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Ive seen people use that blue gummy sticky-tack to block the crevices to keep the grout from leaking. You probably already know that though, but i thought it seemed to be a clever solution ; )


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Ohhh, that leaf looks awsome as do the swirls of the baroque!!! I remember your pc with the old truck and the trees and see how you have kept moving forward with that inspiration! Depth...at a whole new level!!!


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Kiki, that would be to prevent it from going into another grout line, bleed is actually when the grout finds it's way UNDER the glass. Its not acceptable when using transparents


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Sheesh, why do I have Alice Cooper singing in my head?! lol!


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Absolutely STUNNING!!!!! I hardly have words...It's beautiful!!!!!


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so I finally figured I would try to avert disaster with the epoxy by making a mold to set it into, that way the edges won't empty out.

so I glued this foam with gorilla glue and coated it with silicone. I'll paint it with beeswax before I proceed

mold for epoxy work


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Waiting with baited breath...
Renee


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I cannot believe I almost missed this. Girl you are going to blow your own mind with this stroke of genius. Stop, Stop you are killing me. lol


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HAHAHAHAHA Marquest!!!!

well, everyone keep their fingers crossed

epoxy is poured, so far so good.. whew!

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omg it totally worked!!!! now I think it needs to get a mosaic edge and it will be done!

omg that worked???

yes, thats the back - NOT COVERED IN RESIN AND TORN FOAM HAHAHAHAHA


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You l'il heifer!!! You're a genius. Congratulations.


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Flip that baby over !!!! LOL


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So so so waiting to see it! I check back here more often than is right, lol.

Are the epoxy edges smooth? Can you trim it if it gets drippy?

Where do you find the nerve to try a new product at the end on something you have worked on for so many hours!

Amazing!


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What Kiki said.
Renee


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LOL at ya all... my inner terrier has got nerve!

because I was concerned about the resin spilling and pooling under the mirror I was on the cautious side over the amount I used. what little did seep under knocked off easily with a spackle knife. Which is good because I thought my only option would be to sand it off with the dremel and run the risk of damaging the mirror back.

the edges are not smooth and not good looking so I decided the best option was to edge it in glass. I had a sheet of a green that I had ordered for lilypads on the last table but didn't like it. Its swirlly with white and amber and has a quality that reminds me of Van Gogh's watergarden painting.. Worked my BUTT off the measure that all out into a grid and cut with a straight edge, tumbled them and mosaic the edge. all that's left is to grout it today.


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MORE PICS PLEEEAAASSSEEE!!!!!!! WOW! AMAZING! Redundant pat words...but just can't express how awesome this is!


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there I was doing the final cleaning when I saw a scratch, a deep scratch across 2 pieces of glass (a green and a clear). I decided to pull them out and replace them but all I had of the green were smaller scraps. Finally decided that I would pull another piece of the green (panels from a lily pad) and down size it so that I would have 3 smaller sections and hopefully it wouldn't look out of place. OK

then I broke that green piece

sooo new plan what can I put in place of the leaf???

D fly


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Looks like it was meant to be there. I ache for your problem. Can't figure out how you pull things out of the epoxy. Please explain how you did that. I've been wondering why we haven't seen the complete reveal. Bless your heart.


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My husband asked me that same thing (and he helped me with the epoxy job) these pieces were glued to the tabletop with silicone. It does look like it belonged there, the fish now looks like he's coming up to eat it... serendipity


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Looks fine to me...and when the epoxy covers it, it will fade away?


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no , not epoxying the top or I would lose all the lovely texture.

OKay, stick a fork in it I'M DONE! click this pic to see more photos

The Frog Pond


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Happy Valentine's Day, indeed! A work of art. It has been a pleasure to be along for the ride on this wonderful journey. The results are extraordinary. The frog's leg in the pond is brilliant, and the view of the water and the red fish's white fin through the lily-pad leaf is amazing. The bubbles!
So much to look at. Thank you.
Renee


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Girl it is a work of art .I can not see any scratch in it .It is just fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Too speechless to comment anymore except WHAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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It's as if you caught the moment one second before the yellow fish whips his head to the left and captures that dragonfly! And I love the fish hiding under the lily pad. Lovely, original, beautiful work. What's next for you? I can't wait.


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LOVE the close up pics cuz they show a bit of that great baroque glass!!! What a Work Of ART!!!! Whew! All done...now I bet this will go for BIG bucks!!!


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I have drooled all over my keyboard. Beautiful. I want it so bad. I wish I had your talent or the money to buy one.

Thank you for sharing the journey. It helps with my mood you cannot know how much you helped. It gives my mind something to think about and try to figure out what the heck you are doing. lol.


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You have invented a new mosaic technique !
My favorite is still that red fish. So "dimensional" -- or something.


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You are so extremely talented! Thanks for posting all the pics and sharing your methods of achieving such a beautiful piece. Congratulations on finishing....can't believe you're not keeping it!


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It's like watching the Mona Lisa being painted step by step. It's a masterpiece !


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awww blushing now, ya all are too much. thank you all for your comments. they are all really appreciated, thank you


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I just showed my husband your masterpiece. He commented, and I quote, "That is the most artistic and realistic mosaic work I've ever seen, and the creatures are so lifelike. Beautiful mosaic art."


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