I use ES on almost all my plants. I mix it 1 tbl/gal water and just water the plant normally. I don't use bone meal but I do mix other things with the ES like kelp extract. For brugs I use the ES once a month and fertilizer once a week. Karyn

Ntbio said, Ingham herself recommends as much as 2# per acre of sulfur addition using humate on her product page (she sells this at a bizarre cost I see!), and Ingham sells humate. Can you please provide a link? Seriously, I can't find it. Humate contains sulfur. and 1 acre of corn containes ~20# of sulfur. I have no problem with natural forms of sulfur. As you said, everything needs sulfur to live. When the formerly living things die and decompose, their sulfur is recycled naturally. That's a good thing in my book. magnesium sulfate is a natural occuring compound in the soil. I can't find anything on this. I would be surprised if it were true, because salt ions usually dissolve in water leaving no sign of the original compound. Sometimes they form crystals, but not normally in regular soil. google: sulfur deficiency in soil I did. Here are the four hits I got. I'm not sure what your point was since they are not talking about magnesium sulfate. However, your garden is your business. And, if you continue to add non NOP compliant products and mis apply information you do no service to the promotion of organic lawn care. This is really getting weird. Where did I add non NOP products? Paragraph 205.605 allows magnesium chloride. I just mentioned it as a preferred way to get magnesium. Can you help me understand what I said to mis apply information? Secondly, there is no such thing as a certified organic lawn. Organic certification only applies to crops or livestock for sale. Organic lawn care is only a hobby. You can interpret it your way and I'll interpret mine my way. Along the way I reply to messages where I think I can shed some light. Your creation of your own personal interpretation of NOP to suit yourself only misinforms. The information I have is backed up by some research and some practical experience. I've tried to find information to back up your statements and I cannot. I asked you for help to back up your statements but you seem to be resisting. Most importantly to this thread, I'm still wondering if there is any evidence to show sulfur and/or sulfates are not harmful to microbes. The fact that sulfur is used as a fungicide should be enough said on that subject. Further, you have no place on an organic lawn forum whereby you recommend non organic products. It is your /Ingham blanket statements / misinformation / bad math kind of information that gives organic programs a bad reputation....legitimate compost tea producers also suffer at irresponsible talk like yours. Is anything in this sentence true about me? I'm not thrilled about recommending magnesium chloride but it is on the NOP list of approved synthetics. Misinformation? I'm the one posting back-up sources for my information. Bad math? Please correct any math errors. Bad rep for organic programs? I like to think I'm responsible in part for a growing interest in organic lawn care. Several years ago I wrote a FAQ for a simplified, inexpensive, fully organic lawn care program. That FAQ has been downloaded at least 20,000 times from three organic lawn forums, two of which I moderated. It's not exactly a million seller, but it's a start. Compost tea producers? They're the ones I get my compost tea info from. I know several commercial producers and have visited their facilities. One of my CT information sources makes 73,000 gallons per year. She's a student of Dr Ingham and is fully onboard with these comments. You have every right to produce your version of "organic" (there is a definition of organic by NOP standards you know)compost tea ans use non organic products because in your estimation they are organic. But in every case you are fraudulent. Puh-leeze! Sulfer defiency is a serious issue and one the organic industry is aware of...it effects many functions in a plant... I'm just asking you to back up your statements. I can't find the evidence to support you. I agree sulfur affects growth and plant development, but I don't agree it is a good idea to apply chemical sources of it. You've mentioned two natural sources. That's good enough for me.

Hi Shirley, The only question that is dumb, is the one that isn't asked. LOL! In the beginning of the growing season, I use regular Miracle-Gro diluted to half of what is recommended, along with 1 teaspoon epsom salt per gallon. Contrary to what is popular, I am NOT a fan of bloom boosters with an outrageously high phosphorus #. I have experimented with them in the past, and I can tell that my plants looked sick. As the season progresses, I switch to a balanced fertilizer called Sea Grow by Grow more. It's a 16-16-16. The epsom salt remains the same. As far as foliar feeding goes, I think once a week is sufficient, but honestly I have sprayed more than that without ill effects. I believe all parts of the plant can absorb the nutrients, but the bottom side of the leaves are most effective. If you have leaves that are rising, but haven't opened yet, you can spray them. It seems to help. Tony

Hey ruthann, I didn't know what a Desert Rose was, thought I had a plumeria, untill I posted a picture of it on here. Then I found out what I really had. Someone said it is a very close relative to the plumeria. I've had it for six years and this year is the first time it has bloomed, don't think I've had it in the sun untill now. I am so happy with it. And I see it has a few more buds ready to bloom. On epsom salts...So we wait untill spring and then put a touch in the water for our plummies? What does it do? Now if I can remember that long from now. Lauri