Thank you so much, Sue. You're making my job very easy for me. I looked at your links and they were very helpful. Right now, your second link above looks the most promising to me. I didn't see any mention of the actual size of the container, which I thought was kinda strange, but if you click on the link for shipping you do get an estimate for the shipping container which is "23 inches length x 19 inches width x 6 inches height" It comes in sections, so I would think the 23 inches might suggest the height and the 19 inches might suggest the width. Very close to what I want. They also said that you can return them to any Target store. Looks promising. Thanks. I missed the call from the rep at Marchioro on Friday. I'll try to call him back today. I spent some time last night searching and found that a good way to search was to go to Google Images and search for "planters". A picture is worth a thousand words and I got several leads that way. None of them beat what you've come up with, though. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (Blue Billow I mentioned as a pretty reliable lacecap for you and me. There's a similar one called Woodlander that I've seen one woman in Massachusetts always raving about. Here is a little mention of it on the hydrangea forum with a picture) Thanks for all your help. Hay. 0000000000000000000000000 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I needed to organize all this for my friend to see, and here is Sue's list with a few additions. Some of the additions are wood versions of square planters from Target which I might consider painting white. And the very last one in my list is made of steel. 156 pounds!!. I thought that sounded very interesting. It can come in white. Thanks so much again. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO http://www.gardeners.com/Terrazza-Square-Planters/default/16028.prd This is the one from Gardener's Supply. Square planter is 16-1/2" W x 16-1/2" L x 18-1/2" H =================================================== Target: If you prefer to speak to a Guest Service Representative, please call 1-800-591-3869. ======================================================= http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=br_1_4/602-6695167-8101410?%5Fencoding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000E3U210 Estimated Ship Dimensions : 23 inches length x 19 inches width x 6 inches height This looks like the best size I've seen so far. $99.99 Catalog # : 10233674 ASIN: B000E3U210 DPCI: 242-01-6623 ======================================================= http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=br_1_6/602-6695167-8101410?%5Fencoding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000E3UTKO This looks like the same one as above with wheels added to the bottom. I don't think we need wheels. $119.99 23 inches length x 19 inches width x 6 inches height $119.99 Catalog # : 10233780 ASIN: B000E3UTKO DPCI: 242-01-6725 ======================================================== http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=br_1_1/602-6695167-8101410?%5Fencoding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B0001YGVJO White resin -- rectangular one $80.99 Catalog # : 539915 ASIN: B0001YGVJO DPCI: 084-15-0028 Ship Dimensions : 28 inches length x 19 inches width x 16 inches height =========================================================== http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=br_1_14/602-6695167-8101410?%5Fencoding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000BL5YKE cedar---- Ship Dimensions :24 inches length x 19.7 inches width x 7.9 inches height $98.99 ========================================================= http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=br_1_1/602-6695167-8101410?%5Fencoding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000E3U1YS Spanish Cedar Large Planter Catalog # : 10233676 ASIN: B000E3U1YS DPCI: 242-01-6620 $134.99 Estimated Ship Dimensions : 23 inches length x 19 inches width x 6 inches heigh Catalog # : 10233676 ASIN: B000E3U1YS DPCI: 242-01-6620 ======================================================== http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00020UFQM/qid=1141498386/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/103-3585232-0790250?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=284507 From Target.. $64.99 16Hx16Wx19L". ======================================================== http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001LF2KG/qid=1141498062/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/103-3585232-0790250?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=AT39QKIE0XGB7&n=&s=merchant&v=glance Another rectangular one. Measures 28"L x 15"W x 16"H. $93.95 MasterGardening Customer Service Contact Contact this seller Phone: 888-422-3337 ========================================================= http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001LF2L0/qid=1141498062/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-3585232-0790250?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=AT39QKIE0XGB7&n=&s=merchant&v=glanc 1 -12" Pot included, 16" square x 19" MasterGardening Customer Service Contact Contact this seller Phone: 888-422-3337 ========================================================= http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001LEBP8/qid=1141610291/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_11/102-5703460-7243367?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=AT39QKIE0XGB7&n=&s=merchant&v=glance Cedar Diamond Planter 17"W x 17"D x 15"H $69.00 ========================================================== http://www.hooverfence.com/garden-supplies/vinyl-planters.htm 15"W x 15"L x 12"H $64.52 ======================================================== http://www.hooverfence.com/garden-supplies/cedar-planters.htm Cedar Planter 17"Square x 15"H ========================================================= http://www.dumor.com/planter-115.shtml 26.5 inches square Various colors including white. 156 pounds!! 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70 miles away is far. If it must be pots, your plants can be OK in pots. Most gardeners have a more or less permanent pot ghetto in any case! I would keep the pots in part shade whenever that is possible. If they have to be in full sun for awhile, do check them every morning - as you head off for work, for example, or when you get home, if you usually get home before dark. Plant in a mix of potting soil and bagged topsoil. This would be my personal preference for water conservation, even though potted plants generally don't want heavy topsoil. I think any pots that give your plants some room to grow without being the size of Kansas should be fine. Trays or water-catcher things under the pots may help save you some watering work. In zone 5, if you can't get everything into a permanent planting spot by October, use the holding bed idea but just drop the plants (in their pots), into the soil. Plants in pots are vulnerable to freezing. Some people are able to overwinter stuff in pots in an unheated garage but from back when I lived in z5 I know for a fact that, when it was -12 outside, it was -12 in my garage. That's too cold for most potted plants, even if they're hardy in the ground.

Thank you. You all have been so helpful. I have gleaned new and useful information. I have 7 bands that are potted in the local nursery's organic potting soil with the ingredients listed above. The next 8 bands will be potted this evening in the Miracle Gro with moisture control. These bands have been received anywhere from 5 - 8 days apart. I am really curious to see what the difference will be between the bands that arrived last week to those arriving this week. The ones planted in organic planting soil will receive a very weak dose of fish emulsion every Sunday. The M.G. plants will receive water. Roseseek, thank you for the information and the images:) Again, Thank you all:) Lynn This post was edited by desertgarden561 on Fri, Jul 19, 13 at 19:26

You have to up size your pot slowly to get the fibrous roots you want by the time your tree in in its final pot regardless of your soil mix. The 5-1-1 mix Is the best mix for tree root health regardless of how big the pot is for any size tree. It is also the citrus trees best friend. You can't go wrong. My tree are all going in ground outside so I don't want a fibrous root structure . I want a spreading root structure. That is why I went from a 1 gallon container to a 5 gallon and to a 30 gallon and into the ground. By up-potting in small jumps you will have a fibrous root system that will let you lift the tree out of its pot and clip any root/roots that are wrapping up until you need to up-size to a larger pot. Let Mike add more. He has 10 years more experience than I. My goal was to make my trees grow like a weed from very small to too big to handle in one year instead of 3 years as most do. I used bucket lights and a hot/light box to achieve this. Most citrus'er find it's to much hassle. It did jump me from seed sprouts to 9-12 feet of linear twig growth per tree in the first year. 1 year old Sweetlee tangerine tree from seed sprout in bucket lights then grow box over winter. Inside the buckets with a bucket light over head. The grow box came next What I did wrong for potted citrus. 1) I up sized the containers way to fast with to big of jump in pot size regardless of mix. 2) My soil mix is very very heavy that requires vacuuming excess water and aerating often. 3) Grew trees from seed when I should have bought grafted trees I was wanting. What I did different was the strange lighting systems that jumped me forward 3 years of growth in one year. Click the link below for picture of my lighting set ups to see if any thing would apply to you situation. Steve Here is a link that might be useful: http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/wreristhechimney/library/sunshine2013