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Coffee? Maybe On topic

Posted by CANDLER (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 22, 04 at 9:04

Good Morning. I'm 70, widowed, and no close lady friends. I suppose I qualify for Singles do I not. First, I had a short lived email acquaintence with someone who worked at Vanderbilt University. I don't care to revive it but if she's reading I want to say hello. Next, I posted a note under Beverages that reads "Coffee or Coffee Maker For Good Coffee?". It's been about a week with no response. I drink a couple of cups every morning. Maxwellhouse French Roast - Mr. Coffee 10 cup maker. It's acceptable but I've been places that makes it a lot better than I. Any ideas? Suggestions? Thoughts? (Greetings from Western North Carolina)


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I buy a pound or so of unground coffee beans every month or so. I think you can buy a grinder for $20 and I really think it makes the coffee fresher to grind it every morning. I also keep my unground beans in the freezer to maintain freshness. I don't use any particular brand of coffee - just what the grocery store sells in their bulk, by-the-pound coffee containers.


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Hi - I'm Barbara - living near Tampa Florida - Welcome.

Where in Western North Carolina? I have good friends on my mom's near Brevard. Pretty, pretty town.

I'm a big fan of Bunn coffee makers and love love love something called Indigo coffee...

Welcome to TSL.


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Thanks CarrieB and Barbara. The last place I had a good cup of coffee was at a golf course. I saw them grinding coffee beans. I'll pick up a grinder and some coffee beans this weekend. For the time being I'll be using my Mr. Coffee. I hope the grinder has only one setting. Hello, Barbara. I'm Gene. Candler is actually where I live and is just outside Asheville to the west. I like Brevard. Even with the college it still seems laid back, doesn't it. I've wanted a Bunn but never have had a chance to compare a cup from it to a cup from what I've got. I'll start with a grinder and work up, I suppose. Thanks to you both for offering to help. Regards, Gene


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The cooking forum is much more active than the beverage forum and many folks over there are devoted coffee drinkers with lots of good tips about beans and coffee making equipment.

Here is a link that might be useful: Cooking Forum


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There is a way to cold brew coffee, making a sort of coffee extract, which was popular in the fifties. I think there are some posts about it somewhere in these forums. I am off to work now, but I will look next week if no one finds it before then.

At work, I use the coffee that comes in a tea bag form and filtered water. I run it through the Mr. Coffee type machines and serve it immediately. It takes about a cup and a half of filtered water to make one large cup of coffee.


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I have some beans from Costa Rica and some from PauPau. I alternate them in my Mr. Coffee every other day. I don't think Bunn makers are all that good. Nice that they hold hot water and make coffee fast but any mineral content in the water and they plug up.

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michael


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Ah - Michael - not a problem with the reverse osmosis water filtration system I have on the house....

Love my Bunn...


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I appreciate everyone's response. I haven't acquired the grinder and beans as planned. The beans would not have been a problem. I do visit grocery stores occasionally. I rarely go to other types. Don't you think I should examine the grinder close up more than a picture from the Net? What is the TV ad about a maker that does gormet coffee at home? Any good? I'll keep reading this topic and thanks, again. If no one minds I'll post notes as to success/failure to gain better coffee quality. Regards, Gene


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Good luck Gene,

I don't really think the type of grinder makes much of a difference. I guess a more expensive one might last longer, and if you want very strong coffee you could get one that can create a very fine, powdery grind, but really, you just want the beans pulverized. I have heard that good water goes a long way to make good coffee, so, if you won't drink your tap water, perhaps use whatever water you do drink to make your coffee.


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I bought the cheapest coffee grinder Walmart had about 7-8 years ago and it still works fine. It happens to be a Mr. Coffee brand electric grinder. I really don't know what could be done to make a better grinder but this is the USA so if you want a coffee grinder with three headlights and a chrome bumper there is somebody that will sell you one.

While I'm drinking Big Valley coffee at the moment I'll often simply buy Eight O'clock brand Columbian beans. Beyond drinking it I love the smell of the fresh roasted BV coffees... makes the whole kitchen smell wonderful!

BTW.. I'm no coffee snob. At work I drink instant coffee from a vending machine.

: )
michael


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Howdy, again, folks - Well, few things I have found out. Yuban is a decent coffee. I was surprised. Its cost is reasonable. The taste is pretty good. I did not buy the beans. I have yet to buy a grinder. A friend had a single cup gismo that you put a cup of water in the bottom; put ground coffee in the top; put it on a burner; and it boils the water upwards and comes down over the ground coffee. My coffee was just as good. I examined some coffee makers. The ones I like had glass lined receptacle (like a thermos bottle). But, they are not to be put in a dishwasher. As I said before I am a widower and try to keep things simple. Cleaning the inside of a thermal coffee holder every morning is not my cup of tea (pun). I'll get a grinder soon and begin trying different coffees and different waters. Regards.


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I just use instant Taster's Choice anymore...too busy to grind beans or use my coffee maker. I would go back to regular coffee, though, if I could find some Jacob brand I used to drink years ago.


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They still sell (Jacobs Kaffee) it in Germany.Have you tried the german Deli,com. They sell most everything.
Trudy


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Hello, Folks - Happy Holidays. Well, my quest for the right coffee maker and/or taste is still ongoing. Yes, I'm slow. Some say a burr coffee grinder is better than the common blade grinder. The burr runs slower, crushes, and won't dissipate heat into the bean. I've found one fairly inexpensive. However, the grinder parts are not removable and are hard to clean. I'd like to find a burr grinder that parts can easily be removed for cleaning. Does anyone know of such an item? Thanks.


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You know, since all I ever have in my grinder is coffee, I never clean it. Never occurred to me. Is that totally gross?


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Good Morning, CarrieB. You make perfectly good sense. I read data at places like ePinions as well as That Home Site. If someone says a grinder is difficult to clean I take this to heart. Then I begin looking for a grinder that comes apart. Learning of a process to make better coffee is, and has been, slow. I think I'll follow your lead. I'm also considering buying a Delongi combination coffee/capiccino/etc maker. Any thoughts? Thanks for your help.


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My el-cheapo Mr. Coffee grinder came with a little brush that snaps on the side. A little swish with the brush every few days is all the cleaning I've ever gave it.

Sipping a little Ethiopian Yirgacheffe at the moment.


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I'm probably too late to be of much help, but just in case...

Candler, you really don't need a burr grinder unless you are into making espresso drinks. A burr grinder does give you a more consistent grind than a blade grinder (e.g. Mr. Coffee $20 grinder), but that's not something that is going to make that big of a difference for drip coffee.

Personally, for making coffee at home, I prefer to use a French press, which is a very low tech way to make coffee, but definitely gives you a 'full-bodied' taste. :0 A French press is essentially a glass jar. You pour your coarsely ground coffee into the jar and add boiled water. Let it sit for 4 minutes and then press down on the 'press' (a plunger with a rounded screen mesh at the bottom). The plunger pushes the grinds to the bottom leaving you with just coffee to pour off. There really is a big difference in the flavor.


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Good Morning, Sienna, and thanks for the helpful information. I picked up a Mr. Coffee burr grinder about a month ago. It has taken a while to adjust it to quantity and consistency. And, no, I haven't cleaned it. Right now I'm drinking Starbuck's Samatra. It's not bad but I feel there's better out there some place. Many have spoken of the french press. My thoughts are that one of those plus a Mieta (I think) filter will be my next step. I hope you enjoy your new place. Gene (in the Western North Carolina mountains)


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Good morning Gene!

I drink a lot of Starbuck's coffee, but admit that Sumatra is not a favorite. IMO, it is too 'smokey.' If you like a smoother coffee, I would recommend their Guatemala Antigua. If you like it a little 'bolder' the Arabian Mocha Java is very nice.

I think you mean a Melitta Gold filter? Those are good and you never have to worry about running out of the paper filters. I honestly never noticed a difference in taste when I used one, but in the long run, they are more economical and less wasteful.

Oh, and I'm located in Central Texas. I've done some traveling, but I've never been to NC, but I bet its lovely.


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Good Morning, Sienna. I'm always interested in what others think of different coffees. I appreciate what you mentioned and will certainly try them. One of my daughters and her family live at Davidson, NC. There's a business there named Summitt Coffee House which packages their own coffee. I already had in my fridge some Starbuck Summatra, French Roast, and Verona. They came up for a combination Easter and Birthday (mine) event. She knew I was into coffee sampling and brought full packs of Summitt Kilimanjaro Blend; Trimor Blend; and Summitt House Blend. It seems I need to open a coffee house, doesn't it. I live in the Western NC mountains, Sienna. This is home and I've never lived elsewhere for any lengths of time. I suppose I'm prejudice in saying this but this is the finest area I've come across. The filter I previously mentioned was a type of water filter and not a coffee filter. Someone said it works well. Although my well water is acceptable I'd like to try others so rather than buying bottled water I'll filter what I'm using. I'm just trying to see what coffee taste is out there and I find it interesting. I think you would enjoy coming to my area and hope you can make it one day. Regards.


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Well, it sounds like you are enjoying your coffee tasting adventure! :) I would recommend trying some 'straight' bean coffees versus the blends. It will make it easier to know what you like and don't like.

The mountains sound great. I used live near the Appalachian Trail when I lived in Maine and it was amazing. I never knew what animal would cross the road on my way into town (I lived in unorganized territory: no paved road, phone service just switched over from party lines, no postal service, and certainly no cable). That was 10 years ago. I loved the area, but in the end, it was too isolated for me.

I had a college roommate who was living in Texas and she invited me down. It was February and when I left Maine it had warmed up to 0 degrees. I arrived in Texas and it was 70 degrees. Wow, I thought, I could certainly live here! Of course, I didn't quite comprehend the warnings about summer. =0 Funnily enough, that roommate moved to the Raleigh area a few years later, but I've not gotten around to visiting her up there. :)


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Good Morning, again, Sienna. At times I feel I need a taller ladder; or my elevator doesn't make it to the top floor; or whatever. "Blend" just had not sunk in. Does blend mean the coffee beans come from two or more breeds of coffee trees? What you said certainly makes sense but where does one find a straight bean coffee? I just received a pound of Peets 101. It was recommended and the beans are suppose to come from the higher mountain area. But, still, it is a blend. So, what distinguishes straight from blend? Parts of what you said about your Maine area of ten years back seems to replicate where I lived during WWII. I think of those times and the euphoria of youth. Like many others I'm still trying to recapture the peace and serenity that came with it but, unfortunately, I now measure these times in moments and not in endless summers. Regards, Gene


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Good Morning Gene!

Yes, a blend means a mix of different types of beans. Most 'blends' will identify themselves as such (e.g., "House Blend," "Anniversary Blend," etc.). Straight beans would include Sumatra, Guatemala Antigua, Mocha Java, Tanzanian Peaberry, Kona, Jamaica Blue Mountain, Ethiopian Sidamo, etc. I think that both Peet's and Starbuck's have websites that describe different types of coffee beans and both companies sell straight beans as well as blends.

I encourage trying the straight beans so that you will better understand what you like (bold vs. mild, etc.). That way, when you see what beans compromise a blend you are considering ordering, you'll have a good idea of what it may taste like because you will know how the individual beans taste. You are less likely to order something you don't like that way, especially since you are ordering over the internet.

Kerri


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Okay, all this coffee talk got my attention. lol

I lurk occasionally at this forum but haven't posted here regularly since the late 1990's. (Yes, I am old. lol)

Anyway, straight beans are generally referred to as varietals. Which, to my understanding, is a bean from the same crop. For example, as Kerri mentioned: Sumatra, Guatemala, etc. Blends are exactly that. Blends of different varietals.

Gene, how lucky you are to be gifted with all these yummy coffee beans to try! If there's a Starbucks or similar coffee house near you, you might stop by for an informal lesson in what's what. I've generally found that the staff is quite willing to answer questions and give instruction on how to make an awesome cup of coffee.

And if you become enough of a regular, you might just find that they treat you to complimentary drinks and bean samples! :o)

Karen


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Good Morning, Kerri (Sienna?). Same for you, Karen. I've never been much to read instructions; ingredients; and the like. But, thanks to you, maybe there's hope for me yet. I read a couple of the coffee packages. Of interest is the Starbuck's Sumatra. It speaks of "single origin coffee". Everything else I have is a blend. For example one speaks of Italian Roast with a mellow Yukon blend. I read from the Summit Coffee House package that it is organically grown AND that on opening the package it's recommended the coffee be consumed within seven days. I have it in a freezer bag and in the freezer. Will this extend the preferred life? Across the road I have a golfing buddy who is also widowed. I'll try to make him take some off my hands. Kerri, whenever I get rid of all the coffee I have you can bet I'll read the packages and go for the "single origin" type. I like the Sumatra. Regards, Gene. Short Joke: Dog, sitting at bar demanding scotch and soda being refused service by bartender. Argument heats up and bartender gets gun and as dog is backing away gets shot in foot. Dog goes home; puts on leather vest; cowboy hat; and holster belt with guns. Dog goes back to bar; shoves open the door; and hollars "I'm looking for the man who shot my Paw".


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Gene, there are about as many theories on making coffee as there are on...well everything else. lol

Starbucks baristas will tell you to store beans in an airtight container at room temperature. But when I do that, the beans go stale faster than I can brew up the entire container. So I keep all my beans in their original packaging, in my freezer. I only take out as much as I need to brew each cup individually.

Something else might work better for you. It's a matter of trial and error.

And just for giggles, you might get yourself a milk frother. The manually operated ones are about $10-$15 at Bed Bath & Beyond or similar stores. The froth adds a fun little texture to your coffee...while helping you build up the muscles in your "frothing" arm. lol

Karen


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Good Morning, All!

Gene, I wouldn't worry about the 7 day expiration. If you keep it in the fridge or freezer (doesn't really matter), it'll be fine. I personally just keep the coffee in my kitchen cabinets and haven't had any problems with it lasting about a month that way.

"Single origin" is apparently how Starbuck's is identifying their varietals. Sumatra is a popular one and you'll find it in a lot of blends.

Kerri


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Forgot to add this earlier. Here's another Home Site forum filled with folks who love to talk about coffee and all things food-y. Discussions that meander are highly encouraged. :o)

Here is a link that might be useful: Cooking Conversations


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Good Morning, Folks - As I said before, I became overwhelmed with different coffees about a month ago. At a point I had six. I'll mentioned to a daughter that one type at a time is very sufficient. But, all in all it was a learning experience. The old addage of don't bite off more than you can chew seemed to fit. I think to test coffees one can handle two: a morning coffee and a late afternoon coffee. From that I think one can distinguish the flavor of each. As I have coffee I've begun to write a note to describe my reaction to the flavor but generally I use robust; light or heavily roasted; weak; whether I'd drink it again; and the like. I'll do this for an entire bag of coffee and once finished I'll reread my notes. I'll check the other site and thanks. No one responded about my joke. I thought it was funny. For whatever it's worth of about a dozen coffees I've tried, including Maxwellhouse and Community Coffee, I think Starbuck's Sumatra fits my taste the best. I know we're all different and it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea (pun). Thanks again, Gene


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"I'm looking for the man who shot my Paw".

Hardee har har .... reminds me of Little House on the Prarie ---- always a few Paw's in those episodes.

I bought a coffee press this weekend. Probably a cheapo - found it on a shelf in TJMaxx and thought I'd at least give it a try. Especially since my dogs got in the closet and broke my coffee caraf (???). Thankfully they didn't have any trouble heating a bowl of soup though.... Anyway - coffee press did a fine job. But wish I woulda had some half-n-half instead of the 1% milk. I'm the sort that likes just a bit of coffee with my cream ..... sorry.


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Howdy, Joules, Kerri, Karen, and MJ - I'm glad someone read my joke. Thanks, Joules. Today I watched someone make my coffee using a press. As far as I know that was my first. There's an extra step or two but the coffee flavor is certainly extracted from the grounds, is it not. She also had a frother (sp?) but agreed that with lowfat milk it just doesn't do anything for the coffee. I've begun sharing my current supply of coffees. I'd really like to try nothing but "original origin" coffees for a while. Joules, I saw your shuttle note on another topic. I thought it was fun knowing what would be on the news the next day. On something completely unrelated I caught the end of a movie. It had Merlin, sorceress' (sp?), and so on. A statement was made that kinda works on the mind - "When we're forgotten we cease to exist". I thought it interesting. Regards, Gene


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Good Morning, Folks - Well.............! I'm still trying to drink and give away the mass of coffees with which I wound up a while back. I still have two unopened Summit Coffee House bean packages in the freezer. I hope it will be fresh. No, I haven't bought my press. Being by myself I rarely go to places other than Lowe's or Home Depot. But, I will get a press; I will get a frother (?); and whatever else it takes to learn about coffees. As a side note, I bought my older (75) brother's Miata and will be driving from Western NC to Ft Myers to pick it up. A daughter is going with me to drive it back. What is it they say about when one gets older they have to have bigger toys. Anyway, I think it will be fun. Maybe I'll even drive it by a store that sells coffee stuff. Regards, Gene


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A Miata? You will be majorly stylin'! I'm so jealous. ;o)

Karen, whose dream car is a two-door PT Cruiser convertible.


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Good Morning, Karen - Yes, a PT Cruiser convertible would be nice. As the young folks say, they are "cool". Also, they appear to have adequate room. I talked to someone who had taken a trip as a passenger in a Miata. They claim to have carried their overnight bag in their lap. Now, that's small isn't it. Going back to a prior note I don't have a Starbucks near me. I wish I did. I do have a coffee house called Port City Java. I understand they originated at Wilmington (Port City), N. C. and are slowly spreading. I looked at Cooking Conversations but didn't see much coffee talk but thanks anyway. I'm close to opening my last two bags of Summit Coffee. I'm glad because I want to move along. For whatever it's worth last night I saw a two hour program about modifications to the shuttle for the June flight. An attractive lady with initials of LB seemed to hold some position of authority. I wondered if it might be Joules. I hope you're doing well Karen and the same goes for others who read this. Remember to drive safely. It's not only cars that can be recalled by their maker. Gene


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Good Morning Gene!

While I'm still amazed there are parts of the country without a Starbucks , at least you can always order on-line whenever you get done with the Summit Coffee. I'm not familiar with Port City Java, but would be interested in hearing what you think of it.

Drive safely with that Miata! My HR manager used to have one and she said it really taught her a lot about defensive driving! =0 Those Miatas are so low to the ground, that even in my Honda Accord, I've not seen them as they tried to merge into traffic and they scared the crap out of me. However, traffic in my area is horrible, so I bet in a less congested area you can really have a lot of fun tooling around with the top down! Nothing I like more than driving curving country roads with a fast car. ;) Well, except maybe roller coasters!

Kerri


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Hey Candler/Gene (???) - glad someone else saw that show! And nope, not me featured ... though I'm every bit as attractive :-) I did, however, get involved with placing the TRK (Tile Repair Kit) into the shuttle. The contents table lists mixer gun, foam brushes, and plugs -- so the show must have been very accurate. But wow, wouldn't it be nice to be involved in development! Most of what I do here are repairs and stowage for flight. Sometimes that's enough, but it hasn't been lately ... thus, my return to school.
We used to have a guy here that we called "the bobber". Short & round, always wore white collared shirts tucked into black pants with a belt --- resembled a fishing bobber. He had a miata and would don his black leather driving gloves before leaving the parking lot. What a guy - but climbed the ladder right outta here!


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Good Morning, Helen, Kerri, Joules, et al. Joules, did I read you were thinking of dropping THS? I like people who add life to these forums. I suppose I'm jealous but what should one expect from a 71 year old widower. My time expires this month and I'll renew. I'll do the same for you if you wish. Just let me know. Kerri, there's a few Starbucks in Asheville and I live about 15 miles out. I rarely go to their locations but will stop in one day mostly to browse. I hope you're enjoying your place and all that comes with home ownership. Sometimes one gets a good feeling handling matters independently. Karen, I hope you and the high rise are compatible. I'm sorry the gardening area is rather small. I imagine the trips you take are more enjoyable than before your move. As for my potential Miata I live close to the Blue Ridge Parkway and not too far from its highest section (6000+ ft). This will be a fun early evening drive, I think. QUESTION. I prefer something sweet with my coffee. It started 15 years ago when I gave up smoking. Has anyone found something decent, but no sugar, that seems to taste pretty good as one is having coffee? Thanks, Gene. P.S. Joules, Candler is a community outside Asheville. In my working days coworkers sometimes would call me that. I go by Gene. Regards.


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I think you've got me on that one Gene. I, too, need something sweet with my coffee. I never smoked, but my dad worked for Nabisco and we always had sweets around the house. To keep the calories down, I usually nibble on a biscotti with my coffee, but I'm having trouble thinking of something that's sugar free. My best suggestion would be some of the less acidic fruits like pear or mango or baked apple (I really like a Golden Delicious apple sliced up and cooked in the microwave for about 2 minutes -- no sugar needed!). Or you could always try the sugarfree chocolates.

I know Starbucks gets a bit of a bad rap because it has grown into a large chain, but most of the ones in my area are staffed by very friendly barristas. Somedays it reminds me of the television program Cheers, as most of the staff know my 'usual' (I'm a diehard coffee drinker - 2 shots of espresso w/ a little foam on top) and several know me by name. Anway, I'm sure they'll be helpful and more than happy to answer your questions.

I'm definitely enjoying home ownership (or at least the nice big yard!). I have a major project in front of me that I've been putting off. The original owners liked wallpaper and for some bizarre reason, the builder adhered the paper directly onto the drywall, which I discovered after I started trying to scrape it off. I guess I need to get over to one of the remodeling forums and figure out if there is an easier, less damaging way to remove this paper. Ugh.

Hope you have a good weekend!

Kerri


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"I know Starbucks gets a bit of a bad rap because it has grown into a large chain..."

No kidding! Some people talk about Starbucks as if it were diseased! lol You know what I say? Use it right back! I bought shares of stock in SBUX right after they went public in 1992. BEST investment I ever made. It has split at least four times -- probably lots more -- since then. And the potential for growth is still opening up.

No company is perfect. Arguments could be made against Starbucks for not pursuing enough free trade, for organic vs. non-organic, etc. But you have to pick your battles in everything. I've chosen to invest in a company whose bottom line is sound and still on the upswing. It's my little coffee-colored nest egg. :o)

Karen


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Karen, obviously I don't have any problems with Starbucks. I think it's the classic American success story. Why that upsets some people I don't know.

Congratulations on the wise investment.

Kerri


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Well - a couple of things. I just realized that my THS anniversary date is in February and not May. I had it confused with a local on-line classified newspaper subscription. Let's see - Oh yea! We call them senior moments. The other is being presumptious about Joules leaving. I was only trying to be decent. Maybe we older folks should think a little more before offering to help. I tried to send her a note through THS and it's no longer valid. If she's gone I hope it was not because of me. Anyway, my current coffee is Summit Timor organic. It's not bad. I've had it for three days and it'll take longer than that for a good judgement. Also, I need to replenish my bottled water so I can try it with something other than from my well. It often shows a different taste and could enhance or detract from my opinion. I'm glad Starbucks did well for you, Karen. I've never heard anyone speak badly of them. From what few times I've been in one of their places everyone seemed to enjoy being there. I wish I had one closer. Kerri, I'm still working on finding something no fat and no sugar to go with coffee. Your suggestions are good and I may give them a try. Regards to all, Gene


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Gene, the parent site for the Single Life forum has been having some kind of technical problem for the last several days. That may be why your e-mail to Joules didn't go through. Not to worry. Tides always ebb and flow on the 'net. :o)

Karen


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Good Morning, All. My coffee trials have been going on for six months or more. I've come to several conclusions and close to others. Not having someone to discuss the process is a big drawback. Also, not having someone to help consume the coffee lengthens the trial. These days I can hardly wait to try something different. I'm from the depression era and reluctant to waste anything so I finish a bag before starting another. I know I've only touched the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. Although it will create more expense I think I'll start buying small samplers when I find them. I guess they contain enough coffee to make a judgement of some type. I hope everyone's summer is starting well. It's pleasant in the Western N.C. mountains. Well, maybe except for keeping up a mountain log house I built as a second home and decided to sale (sale fell through) and doing a lot of mowing. I hope the foregoing does relate to the single life. The kids are busy with their lives and guess who is left. Regards, Gene


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Good Morning Gene!

I've found I like frequently switching types of coffee. Each is different and entertains me for a time. I had a bag of Starbucks once that was some of the best coffee I've ever had in my life. Alas, after buying the same type over and over again it never reached the exotic flavor of the first bag so I have not bought SB coffee in a couple years.

No kids here just another weekend in the factory working.

: )
michael


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My niece works at SB and I have received it for Christmas.

I enjoy my coffee but not as much as the rest I suppose. I don't care for the flavored types. I do buy other brands, grind them, and mix them with my regular coffee (morning blend). It's enough of a perk for me.

SB gives away their used coffee grounds. They're good for the garden. : )

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Gene, the coffee samplers are a FAB idea! You get to try lots of different blends & varietals without spending a fortune. Lots of coffee places offer teensy, vacuum-packed samples of their most popular coffees. Millstone is a popular coffee brand carried by many grocery store chains. You should be able to find sampler sizes of their coffees. In your area I would suggest you try Target, Winn Dixie or Food Lion.

Also, I wouldn't worry about wasting any of those beans. I currently have four different kinds in my freezer, and I usually keep six or more! Whole beans will last a good long time if you keep them in your freezer, in an airtight container, and only take out as much as you need, when you need it. I know they'll tell you differently if you ask an employee of one of those coffee places. But the truth for me is, I've been keeping beans using this method for nearly 15 years and it WORKS!

I'm loving these posts about your coffee adventures. Keep 'em comin'!

Karen


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Morning all!

Gene, you said you've reached some conclusions, tell us! I know you like the Sumatra. Are there any others you've discovered that you really like/dislike? How are you brewing your coffee these days?

Summer is heating up here. We were fortunate enough to get rain over the holiday weekend, but we will be back in the 90's this week. I'm going to D.C. for my brother's wedding next weekend which should be interesting. My other brother and my sister just met the fiance this past weekend. My Dad and I haven't met her yet (whirlwind romance). I like to visit D.C. and it even sounds like it'll be cool -- at least compared to the 90's!

Much as I love living in Texas, summer is my least favorite time to be here and generally I just count down the days until fall. ;)

Hope you all have a good week!

Kerri


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"Summer is heating up here."

Which reminds me...Gene, we've got to get you to try an iced Americano. Throw in a little splash of cream and it's pure heaven in a glass.

And in case anyone is beginning to wonder, I DO have other interests in life. lolol! But since this is a coffee thread, I'm still talkin' coffee. :o)

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Good Morning (Saturday), Karen, Kerri, Michael, Wing, and others. For years I drank Maxwellhouse French Roast. It was very acceptable. I wasn't into my coffee trials and didn't know switching coffees would be fun, as Michael said. So far I checked one supermarket's sampler packages. All were the flavored which I'm not trying at this time. There's more supermarket chains and about a half dozen gourmet places I'll eventually check. I'm still on Summit's Timor organic. It reminds me a little of Starbuck's (single origin)Summatra. I think I need to take Karen's advice and not worry about using the same type of bean so quickly. I keep them double bagged in the freezer so odor shouldn't penetrate, should it? At two morning cups and one late afternoon cup it takes a month to six weeks to consume a bag. If I were to switch between two I would have those beans in the freezer two to three months (double bagged of course). Would that be too long? I have an unopened Summit Organic House Blend and I think I'll start switching between this evening. Kerri, you must enjoy traveling. I envy you. I think I'd like to travel but don't seem to have time. My sister went into a nursing home; my brother and I bought her house (for rental) and acreage; and he lives in Colorado. So guess whose left to redo the house; keep it mowed; find a tenant;and so on and so on. Iced Americano? If I were a drinker I'd hope it contained alcohol. For some reason I doubt it. It sounds good but anything coffee flavored seems foreign if not hot. How does one make this, Karen? I'd like to give it a shot. I suppose Tuesday I'll head for Ft Myers for a week and to pick up the Miata. There's a fast ship that goes from Ft Myers to Key West; stays five hours; and return the same evening. I've never been to Key West so that should be an interesting trip. I didn't see the Edison house and museum my only other trip (year's ago) to Ft Myers. It's a must do. While there I'll look for coffee samplers, too. I watched a movie (Lady of the Lake, or something like that). She was giving advice to Merlin on how to handle a semi evil sorceress. She said "When we're forgotten we cease to exist". That would certainly start a platonic discussion, huh. Best regards, Gene


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Gene, a quick response to your question about how long to keep beans in the freezer (and then I've gotta hit the road -- when you're self-employed there's no such thing as days off).

I've still got a bag of Jamaican coffee beans that somebody gave me for Christmas. So IMO you don't need to worry about how long they'll last.

Double bagged? Hey, there's lots worse things a freezer could smell like than coffee! :o)

Off to work, back later......

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Hello, Everyone - Karen, this may be a little early but HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I sincerely hope it is one of your best and I wish for you nothing but better ones in the future.

I'm taking a laptop to Florida but have never tried accessing an ISP from anywhere other than home. So, I thought I'd better say it now. Sure shows a lot of computer savvy, huh.

I thought when you moved to the highrise you were retired. Maybe that was wishful thinking for you. Self employed? I'd like to hear about it sometime. I worked for the other person for most of my years but did consulting afterwards. I wasn't conditioned for the stress of self employment. Whether it caused a few medical problems I don't know. I heard someone say that one cannot make any money working for the other guy. That's probably true. I hope you can turn the work off at the end of the day. I couldn't.

Best regards, Gene


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Just got a couple pounds of the good stuff from Renee. Nice fresh Costa Rican Terrazu and some Ethiopian Harrar. Nothing like having a friend in the coffee roasting business. Soon as I popped open the Priority Mail box the whole kitchen lit up with the smell of real coffee.

: )
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Michael -- Now, that is a true friend! ;) I haven't tried the Costa Rican, but I do like Ethiopian Harrar -- very smooth.

Gene -- I hope you are safely back from your trip and are enjoying the Miata. How was Key West? Did you visit Hemingway's place?

I had similar experience to yours when I was self-employed. I find I have a lot more 'free' time working for someone else as I can shut it off when I leave the office and never take it home. That is worth a lot to me. My current employment is less challenging, but it leaves me with the time and energy to pursue my hobbies.

I am fortunate to do some traveling. Hopefully that will increase soon as I now get a 3rd week of vacation. This year has been rather tame. I went to a conference in El Paso (with a fun side trip to New Mexico), just came back from my brother's wedding in D.C. (stayed at a great hotel that had Starbucks on one side and a book store on the other! -- my idea of heaven. ;)). I'll probably visit my Dad in Gulf Shores late summer/ early fall. Next year will be a little more adventurous as I have a conference in England, but with the current exchange rate, it's going to be rather pricey, which limits how long I can stay. Fortunately I went to school there and have already hit the major tourist destinations, but I can't be that close to Ireland and not visit family. Darn. ;)

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Good Morning, Kerri, Michael, Karen, Wings, and Others. I didn't make it to Key West. It's strange how one can become conditioned to things. Although I could have stayed there a month or more (brother's house) I had mentally set seven days for the trip. It takes +/- 14 hours driving from Asheville (NC) to Ft Myers (Fl). The next day one only feels like hanging out at the pool, canal, watching TV, or whatever. The next day was touring Thomas Edison's museum/lab/home and seeing the area. The next two was visiting my favorite niece. The next I did some work on the house. The next I came back. I hope to get back in November and maybe I can get to Key West then. The Miata (bright red) is fun to drive and made it back just fine. My daughter drove it all the way back. Claimed it fit her better than my Blazer. Now that I'm back nothing but mowing. I'm going to the mountain place in a hour or so. I hope the mower won't bog down. Michael, I envy you having your own personal coffee contact. Does your friend have a web site from where he sells coffee? I'm trying to make it through Summit's Organic House Blend. I've been drinking so much robust coffee that regular just doesn't cut it. I have to add more coffee to get enough kick flavor. Kerri, I almost have the urge to say "Can I go, too?". It sounds that you are traveling enough to tolerate being a company person. If misery loves company I'm kinda glad you mentioned that you, too, couldn't cut the job off at the end of the day. I thought it may have just been me. I'm glad you're enjoying your trips. I have some weeks banked with RCI. I tried to book a week Gulf Shores a few months back. Apparently RCI didn't know the two RCI places there were still under repair from last year's hurricanes. I had called and didn't get answers. I enjoy reading everyone's posts and hope we'll all continue. I wish everyone well and hope it's a fun summer. Best regards, Gene


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Ethiopia Harrar is a most excellent coffee. My all-time favorite, in fact. The flavor is said to resemble blueberries. I don't taste blueberries. But Harrar IS very distinctive. Of course, the price point is commensurate with its singular taste. lol I get my Harrar from Intelligentsia, a local coffee roaster. Retails for about $10.95/lb.

Picking up a question from a few posts back...no Gene, I am not retired! lol I'm looking down the barrel of a 30-year mortgage, with 28 years to go. So there ain't no retirement in my immediate future. I live in a major metropolitan area. Space is at a premium. No single-family homes to be had in my area. And even if there were, they'd sell for about $1 million or more. So I'm quite content with my little space, which I share with my three girl kitties.

Iced coffee: just heat water and grind beans. Play around with proportions until you find what you like. I generally double the amount of beans I use for a hot cup of coffee. Ice and half-and-half get added last.

Karen


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Gene... send me an e-mail and I'll be happy to provide you with an e-mail address for the best coffee I've found anywhere.

: )
michael


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Hello, Everyone - Well, I'm just about to the end of my last bag of beans (Summit Organic House Blend). I'd rate it about a 6 or 7. Before I order the Ethopia Harrar or Costa Riocan Terrazu I thought I'd make a run to a speciality house or two to look for samplers.

I use a typical Mr. Coffee 10-cup makerr. I was in Goodwill and found a very clean Faberware Superfast 6-cup perculator. To test it I put in some water and it worked very well. I forsee a problem with grounds. I've never seen a throw away filter for a perculator. Have you? The water seems to get hotter than the Mr. Coffee. Does anyone use a perculator any more? Does anyone have advice to use/not us it? Would you think this might enhance/detract from coffee taste? Thanks, Gene


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Sorry, Gene. No advice here on the percolator/filter thingy. I use a tea kettle to heat my water, and a paper cone filter.

My main reason for popping in here now, though, is to rave about a new blend of African beans I just bought yesterday!

The blend is called Star & Crescent from Intelligentsia.

Wow! They took the very best of all the African coffees and made something absolutely awesome. Smells like chocolate and blueberries and a bunch of other good stuff my nose can't identify. lol The taste is equally divine.

I just checked Intelligentsia's website and they don't offer Star & Crescent there. But I first spied this blend at my local Whole Foods Grocery store. So maybe they'll have it near you, if you have a Whole Foods.

Karen


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Gene, there should be a metal filter with the percolator. No paper filter is necessary. Personally, I do like percolated coffee over drip coffee (your Mr. Coffee) and I suspect it's because of the hotter water over the beans brings out more flavor.

Karen, thanks for the heads up on the Star & Crescent. I'm fortunate enough to work in Austin and will be stopping by their new headquarters to check this coffee out. I know that I've liked the coffee that I have bought there in the past (Guatemala Antigua), and I'm looking forward to trying the Star & Crescent.

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I think percolators are considered the worst way to make coffee because the coffee gets boiled. Not that I have not drank many gallons of percolated coffee and been happy with it. I'm currently using a Mr. Coffee drip machine.

You can always try a pot and see if it is what you want.

: )
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Kerri, no promises on Star & Crescent being available in other markets. Intelligentsia is based in the city where I live. I'm not sure how far out they go as regards coffee bean distribution. But one would think that if Star & Crescent is available at a Whole Foods anywhere else, it would be in Austin! :o)

BTW, get hold of one of those Violet Crumble bars next time you're at Whole Foods. It's a little Australian confection and it's available at Whole Foods in Austin. The name has nothing to do with what's inside: a chocolately-merengue-y piece o' heaven!

Anybody wanna start a thread on the joys of chocolate??? lol

Karen


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Just read, today, to put three pennies under your glass carafe. In a triangle shape. It's supposed to keep your fresh brewed tasting like fresh brewed all day. They say resturants use them too.

I'll try this one!

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Karen, I can't recall the brand name on the coffee that I bought at Whole foods, but if I don't see Intelligentsia, I will certainly ask for it. :)

The Violet Crumble sounds lovely, but I'm afraid I'll have to wait a few more days before trying one. I had 5 teeth extracted this week so my gums are still healing. I'm consoling myself with frappucino for breakfast and smoothies for lunch. LOL

Wings, I've not heard about the penny trick before. Let us know if it works!

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Jumping in here on the coffee subject. I always drink the Folgers Hazelnut coffee. I buy the whole beans, and keep them in the refrigerator. About once a week, maybe twice, I grind up enough beans to make 5 or 6 pots, and put the ground up beans in an air tight canister. I have a Bunn coffee pot, 10 cup. I drink maybe 8 cups. Then shut it off. Later in the afternoon, I add another scoop of grounds, and more water, for my afternoon pick me up. Due about now. I also use the brown filters. The white ones have been bleached, and to me, that changes the flavor.
I am gonna try that penny trick.
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Good Sunday Morning, All. I'm always amazed how much food for thought I acquire from our exchanges. I grind beans each time I have coffee. Some beans are always left in the grinder. It makes sense in grinding enough for several pots, as Leslie mentioned, as long as it is kept sealed well. That way I could empty the grinder each time. Make sense?

I just picked up a half pound sampler of Brazil Carrado (where do they get these names) from Port City Java. It's suppose to be an original origin coffee. I hope it turns out well. In different degrees I've liked about all coffees I've tried since last October but still would recommend some over others. I'll eventually try ones mentioned more recently on this board.

From a song: Life goes on - Like grass in the cracks in the sidewalk. Something to think about. Regards, Gene


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I prefer a mellow roast, nothing bitter or dark. My Mom on the other hand likes very strong coffee. I don't make 'weak' coffee, but not as strong as hers. I like to be able to drink it even if it gets cold.
When I worked (retired 4 years ago) I took a thermous to work, because all they had was vending machine coffee. YUK. I hated it when I'd walk off and forget my coffee at home. I always drank it on the way to work too. It took 40 minutes to get there. Just enough time to drink a travel mug of hot coffee and get woke up. By the last cup, the coffee was not the steaming coffee I started the day out with. So I had to like it, to drink it cold.
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Good Tuesday Morning, Fellow THS Members. Not much going on with my coffee quest. I'm still on Brazil Carrado. I've not had what I would call a bad coffee since I began doing my thing last year. I have yet to order some previously mentioned. I eventually will.

About weekly I take my Miata out for a spin and stop at Port City Java. When I stop I'm usually in the mood for something sweet. I've been getting a moka (sp?) coffee with topping. I'm by myself and feel rather uncomfortable. I tried making something similar at home. Strong Carrado; half pack of Swiss Miss hot chocolate mix; couple scoops of CoolWhip; and a couple squirts of chocolate syrup. It was pretty good to drink but not as good as theirs.

Leslie, my Mom only used JFG and perked it on our coal kitchen stove. It came out very black and very strong. I began drinking coffee in my mid teens. When I drank coffee elsewhere I thought restaurants/people just didn't know how to make coffee. I later found, as mentioned in an earlier post, we are a nation of people who are accustom to drinking weak coffee.

A friend from the college days stopped by a while back. She and I were very close but went our own ways. She brought an Emily Dickison book. She suggested I read "PARTING". After she left I read it several times. I'm sure we all do not derive the same thoughts from words we read. Personally, I felt she referred to the life she and I had, and the feeling when we parted. We had a good life together as college sweethearts often do. But I felt sad realizing our parting created the same feeling in both of us.

MY life closed twice before its close;
It yet remains to see
If Immortality unveil
A third event to me,

So huge, so hopeless to conceive,
As these that twice befell,
Parting is all we know of heaven,
And all we need of hell.

I wish for everyone a pleasant Summer. Gene


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So Gene, does this mean that one or both of you might like to give it another try?

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Good Morning Gene!

How would you describe the Brazil Carrado? Is it bold or mild? Is it smooth?

I'm not a big mocha fan only because I like my coffee to be really strong and prefer to have a sweet dessert to balance it out. My suggestion to create a mocha would be to purchase some chocolate flavored syrup at the gourmet coffee place (it's not like Hershey's, usually the gourmet coffee places (or any gourmet grocery) will carry an Italian brand of syrups (brand name is Toscani?), for flavoring coffee. I would follow the directions on the bottle for using syrup, add coffee and probably half n half or heavy cream, depending on how 'creamy' you like your drink. Some whipped topping and shaved chocolate on top and you're good to go! :)

I'm frequently on my own at coffee shops, but usually I have a book with me, or I read a paper, or I write some letters. Starbucks is often my home away from home, so I'm very comfortable there.

That's a lovely poem, if a bit dark. ;) On the other hand, I'm a fan of W.B. Yeats and so I have no room to speak, but I love the feral quality of his better poems. Not sure what that says about me, LOL.

Hope you have a good weekend. I'm leaving work early for one of my mystery reader/writer conventions that's actually here in Austin. It's a first for this group, so should be interesting!

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Good Thursday Morning, Karen. On rereading my post it does sound like the beginning of a romance novel, doesn't it. I've been widowed over four years. She is married and has been for maybe forty-five. Yes, I've tried to imagine us getting back together after such a long time. From her reaction I think she has entertained similar thoughts while at the same time recognizing it will never be. I think she and I are both hopeless romantics. She lives away and I'm lucky to see her a few times a year. When we're together except for her looking at an old man and me looking at an aged lady I think we enjoy our reunions.

I'm playing golf today at Maggie Valley Country Club. I play there occasionally through the courtesy of a friend of a friend. The price is not so steep when playing as a guest. I don't play that often and when I do I look for a cheaper course.

I'm still making my home brewed moka coffee mixture but am thinking of stopping it. I got on the scales and it hit 200 for the first time in a few years. I'm sure my coffee brew is loaded with calories. Maybe I'll just drink it at Port City Java. It's $2.50 there and I'm too cheap to pay that too often.

By the way, have you looked at StarBuck's grocery store prices lately. I shop Ingles and they went from $6.99 to over $8.50 (can't remember exact figure). Has it changed in your area?

Good luck to you, Karen. I hope you're traveling enough to breathe fresh air and smell the roses. I also hope you're enjoying your place in the city.

Warm regards, Gene


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Try a teaspoon of Scotch whiskey in that chocolate/coffee drink... not a shot just a teaspoon for flavor.


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Ohhh, I know all about how quickly those mocha calories can add up! lol

I like Mr. Bunnyman's suggestion of a tsp of Scotch.

I also like to add just a smidgen -- 1 tablespoon, maybe? -- of Kahlua to an iced latte. Wow, it sure turns an everyday cold drink into something amazing. But not enough to impair your better judgement. lol

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Good Monday Morning, Folks - Kerri, the Brazil Carrado is a little bold - about what you'd taste with any coffee that had "roast" in its name. I doubt if it's something I'd return to. What you said about straight coffee with a pastry on the side makes perfectly good sense. If one wishes to test coffee (I do) then why do I screw it up with conjuners (sp?). Thanks for the reminder. I need someone to keep me on track.

I checked the StarBuck price a little more closely at Ingles Supermarket (chain). It went from $6.99 to $8.48. That's a pretty big jump. I don't know where in the supply process the increase came from.

On my next visit to a coffee house I'll try to remember to have something to read. They have a patio where one can sit, sweat, and watch traffic. Or I can stay inside their place. I think I'd like it better there, with A/C, and something decent to read.

Yeats? I don't recall reading any of his work. I did go to a couple of web sites. I try to understand what a writer means but apparently I need a few, or a lot, more rungs on my ladder. I don't particularly agree with other's interpretation such as all that's been written about Ode on a Grecian Urn (Keats?).

I didn't see anyone trying to interpret Yeats. I wish they would. The wording is fairly simple until he hits you with the last line or so. It's like a movie leaving one hanging. Let me know what the Surry poem means. Thanks. I'll send you my e-mail if you should care to reply through THS.

Mike, a little flavoring would do wonders, I think. Do they still have the small shot bottles the airlines used? I was never a scotch drinker but never had it in coffee either. Sounds good. What Karen mentioned also sounded very tasty. I haven't drank anything with alcohol since 1995 (after an operation). I just thought it made me pick up weight.

Regards to all and I hope this week is not too hot. Gene


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oooooooooooooo I'm so mad I could spit! We have a "coffee club" at work, with it's six exclusive members. Coffee was made at 8 am - and by 9 when I arrived at work it was GONE!!! There are snitches!


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berain, you need to get there earlier and make the coffee. That way you'll be sure to get some of it. They should have left you a cup. How rude.
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Hello, Everyone. Recently, I was in a new coffee house. They had Costa Rican Terrazu. It was "on the rack" so to speak and I bought a small quantity of beans. I plan to try it this evening.

I've initiated many questions about the care of preservation of coffee. In reading coffee packages and listening to others it seems we should at least try to offer some preservative care. Apparently coffee houses don't think preservation is needed since they leave it in a plastic dispenser exposed to the air.

Has anyone heard this? A lady behind the counter at the new place looked at me seeing more years than I care to talk about it. She asked if I used a French press. I have yet to get one but it's been on my mental list. The lady said coffee from one has significantly high chlosterol. She said a press is normally for one cup of coffee; gives one the truest taste; but emits coffee in a syrup texture. She said anyone with a chlosterol problem shouldn't use one. Has anyone heard of this? I take Vytorin but didn't have the bottle hung around my neck. Regards, Gene


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Hmmph...Ms. Barista sounds like she needs some instruction in good customer service.

Gene, I hadn't heard the cholesterol issue. But I do recall one Starbucks barista, many years ago, telling me that French press coffee tends to produce more carcinogens than regularly-brewed coffee. This same barista also told me, btw, that re-heating a cold cup of coffee can do the same thing.

Not sure if any of the above is true. But I trust my source. Maybe you could try to google the topic and see what comes up?

As far as how the shop stores its beans, I'd imagine they go through beans at warp speed throughout the day. Storage & preservation probably isn't the same priority for them as it is for you and me.

*I* am enjoying a cup of freshly brewed Tanzania Peaberry. The beans followed me home from Boston last week. Pretty nice!

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Good Morning, Folks. A friend said she liked Maxwellhouse Columbian Supreme so I bought a pack. I guess it just proves there's differences in taste. I'll be glad when it's finished.

In the supermarket I saw the new MH's French Roast "BOLD". I like the FR the best of what MH makes. Since I like strong coffee I should like the bold even better. I'll give it a try in a day or two.

Last night I fixed some Costa Rican Terrazu. I didn't know I had missed having such a good coffee aroma around. It fills the air doesn't it. And, it's a pretty good coffee for my taste buds.

I tried a couple of Targets sample packages (gray bag) from a barrel in Targets at .99 each. They didn't do anything for me.

I've been driving my red Miata convertible after the sun goes down. I still go in Port City Java. I find something to read because I'm always by myself. Then, I'll take the Miata to the Blue Ridge Parkway. The air seems to be ten or more degrees cooler. It's a fun drive but a little lonesome.

A little food for thought. I listened to a song and the message was about love and losing time. For example, the time it took me to write this note and the time it takes you to read this note is gone forever. That time cannot be reacquired, relived, or utilized in any way. The song, itself, had to do with love, the happiness of just being together, and realizing those moments will never come again.

Best regards, Gene


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Gene, good to "hear" from you. I've been wondering how your adventures in Coffee Land were going. :o)

I've put in some solo time in those coffee places, and have some cool suggestions for you. Get yourself a big ol' magazine like Vanity Fair or a couple issues of Esquire. They're both great for mindlessly flipping through pages. And when you're ready to read something meaty they've both got terrific articles.

Take these mags with you on your next visit. Get yourself a large order of whatever suits your fancy. Plop down at the table or barstool with the best view-of-your-choice (outside land scaping or prime people watching).

The above recipe will "buy" you a good hour of solo coffee enjoyment, without feeling self-conscious about being by yourself. Heck, if you look around you'll probably notice a few other folks doing the same thing. Sometimes I go to my local Starbucks NOT for the coffee but just for a change of venue.

My favorite sad song that is kind of on the same topic is "You Are There" by Dave Frishberg. Lots of people have recorded it. My favorite version is by Rebecca Parris. But don't listen to it unless you're sitting somewhere, where it's okay if you tear up.

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You are definitely right that there are differences in taste when it comes to coffee.

I was born and raised in Germany and had the hardest time finding 'acceptable' (wouldn't dream of good) coffee in the States. Every time I went back to Germany on a visit, I'd bring back half a suitcase full of coffee (if I had been caught at the airport, I am sure they'd have thought I am smuggling drugs), but inevitably ran out midway.

Eventually, I stopped drinking coffee altogether because the taste was just terrible. Mind you, I've tried different coffees, coffee makers, storage, filters, etc. I simply longed for that smooth full bodied taste coffe has in Europe.

I got a new supply of German coffee (and I like Moevenpick much more so than Jacobs) and decided to get a new coffee maker. Got one of those Krups combination coffee espresso makers and LOVE it. But then, I do make lattes and frappuccinos etc...

Keep up the trying different kinds and if you do have a German deli around, check out their coffee.

Though the last part of your last post about the loss of time has got me utterly depressed :(


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For those of us who cannot get enough, here's another thread about coffee. The highlight is a photo and description of one forum member's $7,000.00 espresso maker. Wowee.

Karen

Here is a link that might be useful: Still MORE coffee talk!


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Good Thursday Morning, Folks - Recently, when it comes to coffee, I think my taste buds are totally shot. I have several types double/triple bagged and in the freezer. I try them all and their taste seems to change. I don't think it has to do with how long in the fridge, do you? I see Target has Starbuck's sale price at $7.00 and it was $6.50. The supermarket I patronize has Starbuck's Summatra at $9.00 and the other at $8.50. I knew I had expensive taste.

I'm glad the Moevenpick and Jacobs was mentioned. I've never drank German coffee. I'll track it down and get a bag of the first. I suppose all of our coffee beans come from areas within 500 miles of the equator. I imagine all countries have processes a little differently. I ran across someone who had boiled their coffee to the syrup stage as the Nomads are/was accustom to. He said he tried it a few times but that was it. His stomach just wouldn't tolerate it.

I saw the web site about coffee. From its activity maybe I'm just taking up space here. Still, it's not all about coffee, is it.

I will eventually hear all of "You Are There". I downloaded a 30 second clip. I couldn't find it by the person you mentioned.

Spunky, since my wife died I have lots and lots of quiet time. A lot of songs just don't seem to have a message, or if a message is there one can't understand it. But, on occasion I hear one as previously mentioned and it sticks. I guess it's usually the ones that are sad. And, speaking of that, I reread Gray's Elegy not too long ago. The beginning really sets the stage.

"The curfew tolls the knell of parting day, The lowing herd winds slowly o'er the lea, The ploughman homewards plods his weary way, And leaves the world to darkness and to me.".

Regards to all, Gene


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Have you had your share of chocolate covered roasted coffee beans? Until this past Saturday (today's Monday) I didn't know they existed (always the last to know, huh!). I'll bet some of you are saying, well, I've known about that for a long time. Makes my point!

Next month it will a year since I began my coffee trials. If I've learned nothing more, coffee tastes is strictly an individual thing. And, yes, I think you knew this, too. My big problem was having someone with whom I could talk about coffee. When someone was around and I fixed an $8-$15 per pound coffee I might comment as "Isn't that good.". As months progressed this switched over to "What do you think of the coffee's taste?".

I'll continue picking up different coffee. If I should be asked about it I'll preface my statement with "Coffee is an individual thing, you know".

Another comment or two on coffee. I never thought a sweet coffee went well with a sweet dessert. I've had mocachino (sp?) with cake and it was great (and extremely calorie laden and unhealthy). I don't have that often. From a personal standpoint, only, sweetening coffee with sugar is not a must. I've drank mine pure black for years and years. But, when trying to make a speciality coffee at the house I use ice creme; whipped creme; syrup; and the like. It's fun to be experimental.

I hope all are well. I guess the length of this topic has gotten rather cumbersome to get to the end. If and when I commeent about coffee again I may start a new topic. I thank all for the input. I've reread a lot of what's been said and I thank everyone very much. Best regards, Gene


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Gene, I've loved your ramblings about coffee (rambling is a good thing!). I hope you'll keep posting about your discoveries. And when this thread maxes out at 100 posts, I hope you'll start another one!

As for me, this morning's cuppa was a blend of Ethiopia Harrar and Italian Roast. I'm doubling up these days to use up the dribs and drabs of beans that remain in my freezer. lol

Karen


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Good Morning, Karen, and All. Karen, that's a good idea about cutting off at 100. I hope to make it there but it seems interest has dropped. I, too, am finishing up some coffees. I usually drink a basic, fairly inexpensive, blended coffee in the morning. In late afternoon or early evening is when I dig out "the better stuff". Then, two cups is my limit. It takes a while to finish the dribs and drabs, doesn't it.

I'm still trying to order a German coffee but they want a two pack order. As I've said before, since I'm the only one to drink it I'd have this drib or drab around a long time.
Ethopian Harrar? I'm not sure if I've had it but might give it a shot.

Do you ever run across writings and say "I wish I'd written that". Here's one I ran across yesterday. "Remembering is a journey the heart takes back into a time that was. Our thoughts are the only tickets needed to ride".

I've got a daughter and son in law in (I think)your area for a short vacation. They're at the Palmer House.

For whatever it's worth "robusta" is the name given coffee that not of very good quality and is at the bottom of the barrel, so to speak. I wonder if that's where the word "robust" came from. We use robust in a very good light when speaking of coffee that has a strong flavor, don't we?

Regards to you, and All. Gene (going for 100)


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