Dea, I did a google.com search for 'complaints against Pay Trust - some good reviews and some not so good: http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ix=heb&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=28&gs_id=i&xhr=t&q=complaints+against+Pay+Trust&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&pbx=1&oq=complaints+against+Pay+Trust&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5f09a43e32662866&ix=heb&ion=1&biw=1280&bih=653 Here is a link that might be useful: The scoop on Pay Trust

Hazel, go to Kmart and pick up one of the Martha Stewart utensil trays...they are with the silverware separater things (the things you put in the silverware drawer to hold the stuff)LOL...anyway, she has one that is separated into three compartments lengthwise. It is perfectly rectangular, no weird markings on the bottom, and makes 18 5oz bars of soap at one time. Perfect rectangles...you can then cut these bars in half for 2 1/2 oz sample bars. The mold itself is like 7 dollars, it's frosted clear very hard plastic, and perfect for any type of rectangular bar of soap you can make. It is a Martha Stewart item and has a sticker on it with her name on it. I found them in the kitchen section...you have to look, but they are there. Kristi

Thanks Jackie. That is one magnificient Anna Olivier. I am still confused as to the differences between Anna Olivier, Bermuda's Anna Olivier, and Schmidt's Buff Giant. HMF suggests they are the same and yet others disagree. I've read a lot of the comments about the Tea Ladies' book and it seemed to me that there was less history and more about descriptions of roses in commerce but not with the information on lineages that I seek. Still, I'd rather have it than not have it. The teas I am most drawn to have probably have some early hybrid tea and might not be so ideally suited to Florida. I have that instinctive knack for wanting what I can't have. BR Cant is great, and she is probably the most successful tea of all in Florida but I think it would be exceedingly rare for her to pass the age of 30. Also I have seen some enormous specimens (on Pam Greenwald's property--Angel Gardens) of Rozette Delizy and a few others, white-to-beige blooms, a full cup shape, and not much scent). They might have been pushing 20. The rest of those that find themselves on "recommended for Florida" can do well but most likely not as well as BR Cant. Aside from BR Cant, Dr. Manners recommends only grafted Teas. Worse, still, the teas that he does recommend comprise a very short list: Bon Silene Duchesse de Brabant Etoile de Lyon Maman Cochet Marie Van Houtte Mme. Lombard Mons. Tillier Mrs. B. R. Cant Papa Gontier (I have all but Bon Silene, Etoile de Lyon, and Marie Van Houtte). On the whole I think that teas prefer Mediterranean climates so it doesn't surprise me that they do so well in parts of California. Much better than in Florida, it seems! Chinas are happier here--the real Chinas, not the ones that are misclassified Bourbons, or the ones with HP or early HT injections or whatever. I just wish that I could get as worked up over them. They tend to have a more loose, informal flower as well as bush and they just don't thrill me. I've never squealed with delight or felt my heart skip a beat with a China.

Great, I was able to reach her. I usually do my own thing, but in this area of the world I'd like to make sure that we are using people who are vetted when we go on day trips and such, and so I am very grateful for your help. Thx for recommending Medellin, too. I have heard more about Cartagena than Medellin, but I have been researching and Medellin looks wonderful, plus has some great day trips to Jardin and Guatape. Look at these photos! Jardin- cute little city and a cable car through the coffee and banana plantations