Thanks PPC. I've read the first link and started the second. LOL I was hoping for first hand knowledge of specific brand names but most of the information in those threads is inconclusive, so I thought I'd ask again. It'd be great to be able to find one OTC! I ordered some PH balanced soap used in laboratories but it's thin and barely foams.

i know that Georgia Pacific makes one under the name of en motion, but it is rather large (10 x 5.5" and wall mounted. They may have others though

Can anyone recommend a dispenser with a LONG spout? The one we have now (Price Pfister) has an utterly useless 2" spout. I have found a 3 7/8" spout, also 3 1/2", but am wondering if there are any that are longer. The new sink is 10" deep. We weren't going to get a new soap dispenser, but after reading this thread, I thought, "I don't want ugly bottles on my new granite!" I could do a rack mounted on the sink cabinet door, but I think the dispenser is neater :-) It just needs a long spout so it can actually squirt dish soap into the pots, instead of dribbling down the side of the sink. Will definitely get a NeverMT--so glad that I heard of it here!

Wanted to mention in terms of potential gunk building up in the auto-dose washers, the models manufactured for the US market do not to my understanding have the extra loading dock for a whites detergent system like Miele does. I think that's a big difference in what may develop in the future as far as odor and mold. The twindos system has hydrogen peroxide in their whites detergent cartridge as I understand it. This ingredient is likely the game changer (saver) with the development of mold and odors within the washing machine. Also, many US washers do not have as hot of washes as a Miele does. Many American users are selecting hot for a wash and only getting around 100 to 111 degrees; this leads to noxious build up for many washers. Other users only select cold washes, which in many cases will cause mold/odor build up. I can foresee mold growing in these machines rather quickly. The caveat here is that if one sets the detergent dosage just right, it might reduce the medium with which mold can set up house and take over a washing machine.