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| To make it worth my while turning off the hot water heater, how long should it be off? We are often away for 2-3 days, but I am thinking that a short period of time would not result in any savings due to the reheat factor. Standard tank. |
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- Posted by oilpainter (My Page) on Tue, Sep 22, 09 at 7:32
| I wouldn't turn the water heater off for a couple of days time away. If you want to save heat loss from the tank, get a water heater wrap. This is an insulated blanket that goes around the tank and helps keep the heat inside. It will help when you are home and when you are away. |
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| I wouldn't turn the water heater off for a couple days at a time either. We turn ours down to the "vacation" setting instead, which is warm enough to prevent bacterial growth in the tank, and warm enough for a quick shower. You also need to figure how how much energy it takes to heat a tank full of COLD water, compared to warm water. If you use a vacation setting, the temperature is probably 110°-120°F. Personally, I wouldn't turn the water heater off UNLESS I also drained it because of the potential for development of Legionella bacteria, which can lead to Legionnaires' disease. This bacteria has been found in warm water in hot water heaters. -Grainlady |
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- Posted by raineyridge (My Page) on Tue, Sep 22, 09 at 19:45
| Thanks for both responses. I have heard of the wrap, but didn't think it was needed since the unit is inside the house. The U.S. energy savings website advises to set the water temp to 120. Will that give me hot enough water? Grainlady, I did not think about bacteria!! Great point. |
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- Posted by stargazzer (My Page) on Wed, Sep 23, 09 at 14:43
| I haven't look at my dish washer manual in many years, but it tells you in there what your hot water heater should be set at for best results. I would not go below that. |
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- Posted by oilpainter (My Page) on Wed, Sep 23, 09 at 17:32
| The wrap is meant to keep the water hot in your water heater so the burner doesn't come on as often. The water heater is built like a thermos, and you and I know that a themos can lose it;s heat after a while. The wrap is much like putting a hot water bottle in an insulated bag to keep it hot longer. The air inside where the heater is not freezing but it is at a cooler temperature than the hot water. |
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| Turn it off. Save yourself a buck a day more or less. fwiw... I don't use hot water except for the shower - I dont need hot water at all right now during summer.. Florida. I flip on a 40 gal hotwater heater for 35 minutes and then turn it off ...before I get into the shower. Been doing this for 12 years. |
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| Are you talking about a gas water heater or an electric? Many sites I've read recommend keeping electric water heaters at a minimum of 140°, while some say a bare minimum of 130° might work while a 120°-125° temp for a gas heater is minimal. Not only because of the bacteria but because of the design of electric vs gas I've read several places suggesting keeping an electric heater at 140°. A few things to keep in mind. Some temp info: FWIW, for about the last year or two I've turned my water heater from about 120° up to about 130° and occasionally up it to about 140°-145° when I have some laundry I want to be in hotter water. One side note is a reminder to maintain your tank heater. Drain off some water every few months to keep the sediment from building up. Sediment can not only make your unit less efficient, it can actually damage your heater. Oh, as far as will a lower temp give you enough hot water, that depends on how much "hot" water you use and the size of the tank you have. Are you being supplied sufficiently now? You might want to get a meter and hook up and see what you actually use over a two day period without water use. That will tell you what it costs and you can also check the temperature afterward to see what the benefit could be. While I'm hesitant to worry too much about the temperature being lowered, at the same time, I'm skeptical that you'll save a dollar or two a day just on standby losses. And of course there is the issue of reheating the water after the shutdown assuming there is such a heat loss. I do think I'd aim more to keep the heat loss to a minimum. |
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| There has been a layer of factory-installed insulation between the cover of water heaters and the tank, but with the increase in cost of energy and increased concern with global warming and pollution, many say that an extra layer of insulation is indicated. Several years ago the city power and water utility, on my request following their promotion, came to my rented townhouse Later, when the system was taken over by one operating over a wider area, when we made a service call, they removed the timer When I called their office to complain about the removal of the timer, I was told that they did not offfer that service ... but We in the western world have a lot to learn about the realities of life that operate in about 4/5 of the world ... and I've said a number of times here that 70 years ago there was a horse-drawn covered wagon that hauled ice down most streets About sixty years ago they began to build refrigerators. If you ask some old-timers around you, they'll tell you that refrigerators built 50 years ago lasted for 40 years. Modern engineers being stupider, it appears ... refrigerators that they build now last for 10 years ... if you're lucky. Considering the resources needed to provide metals and plastics to build them, plus the costs of smelting, delivery, Plus ... at the wage levels that our kids and grandkids will be getting, they won't be able to afford a new one every The playing field is getting levelled ... and those in our part of the world who got used to living high on the hog for a Have a great weekend, everyone. ole joyful |
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- Posted by colorcrazy (My Page) on Sun, Nov 1, 09 at 11:28
| Ours is a gas hot water heater, and we leave it on the "vacation" setting all the time, which means we don't have to worry about shower/bath water being scalding hot. The dishwasher, which is about 17 years old, has a built in hot water heater, so no worries about the water not being hot enough for sanitizing dishes. I wash nearly all the clothes/towels/linens in cold water, so that isn't an issue. We have never turned off the hot water heater. I agree with the others - the tiny savings isn't worth wondering what is "growing" in the water. |
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