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elderly mother's home

Posted by mlou_51 (My Page) on
Mon, Apr 11, 11 at 8:40

My mother's now almost 82 and wondering about her home. My sister stays with her and wants Mom to put the house in her name. She says she was told if Mom passed away that the goverment would take a large chunk of it even if she has a will leaving it to be sold and divided among the 4 of us children. She was told this at nursing classes. She also wants Mom to take 40,000 out of the bank and put it her safe. Same reason. Is this true? And I'm concerned about what happens if my sister for some reason dies before our Mom. Mlou


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Mlou, check out the Caregivers Forum. I know we've discussed this over there..

Your sister's ideas are lousy, even if they are well-intentioned. Your mother needs to see an elder-law attorney and set up a trust, which will save thousands of dollars in probate fees. And your sister is leaving herself wide open to charges of elder abuse. You may trust your sister to do the right thing, but your concerns are valid.

Take care of these matters, but do so with the advice of a legal expert. It will be money well spent.

Here is a link that might be useful: Caregivers


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I couldn't agree more!!! You need competent legal advice as stated above. Anecdotal ("here's what happened in my family") threads are definitely points for discussion on a forum but a pale substitute for elder law attorney guidance.

Something in your gut must be telling you that your sister's ideas aren't quite kosher. And if your mother is of sound mind, she'd probably welcome the clarification and tying up of any of the loose ends she's beginning to think about.


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I think an Older Law lawyer that focuses primarily on guardianships and case for protector over your mom. Once hired, protected mom by going her into your home, protected mothers property by modifying the hair and eliminating your drunkard sis, ask the court for authorization to sell mothers house and place the continues in the protector account. Your lawyer will effectively counsel you with information of this.
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This post was edited by Gonny24 on Sat, Feb 2, 13 at 13:16


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I think you have problems besides your sister trying to get the home and money.

If you take any money out of your mom's estate or sign over the home to your sister or anyone else your mom may be denied medicaid if she goes to a care home. You will have to pay for her care or take care of her yourself.

I don't know about your state's laws but if it is like Arkansas laws, if your mom dies, your sister will be allowed to stay in the house as long as she lives. I know of this happening. The daughter did not do repairs on the home and by the time the heirs got the home it wasn't worth much.


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You are definitely getting a lot of bad advice. Please check with your attorney, or an elder care one, AND your accountant (re: the taxes).

For one thing, you need the right information for your locale. In our state, unless the estate is quite large, there are NO inheritance taxes on an estate passed from a parent to a child. When my mom died, there wasn't any tax to be paid on what she left because it was under the limit. As to probating the estate--costs? Again, it's going to vary from place to place, relative to relative, and will depend upon the value of the estate. But again, it's not a significant amount. The executor is entitled to about 5% or so of the total estate--and trust me, having been the executrix for 2 relatives, that's a small price to pay for the amount of work they do. People are always trying to get out from under estate taxes and the cost of probating, but really unless your mom is a millionaire, those costs will be negligible, if anything at all.

You do want to be a little careful about everything being put in one child's name. I sincerely hope this would never be the case in your family BUT my husband's sister stole over a quarter of a million $$$ of MIL's estate before we realized what she was up to. We NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS would hav suspected her of doing something like that, but we have the evidence in black and white. She was never really made to pay back what she took, she not only hurt her own mother, but she stole from 3 brothers, as well, since the estate was pretty much depleted at that point. Sadly, money--be it large or small amounts--can sometimes do terrible things to people.

Please, get good, solid, professional advice before any changes are made in your mother finances. It's important that you all understand the laws in your jurisdiction. And do be very careful of anyone trying to sell you anything that is going to put money into their pockets (a trust, a reverse mortgage, etc)--be sure you understand all the ins and outs, and FEES. Good luck.


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This thread is almost 2 years old. I hope that the OP has resolved the problems.

The thread was bumped up by Gonny24, who does not seem to have English as a first language. Welcome, Gonny24, I see that you just registered and are from the Virgin Islands.


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Actually Sushi--the age of the thread isn't that important.

Firstly, because caring for an elder relative and their finances is a process. It's definitely not something you do once, quickly and it's over. It can take years to get things set up, and even then you'll be reviewing and refining things. At any point along the way, extra info and support is very helpful and welcome. In our case? MIL's situation took a couple of years before we were able to get the courts to make the necessary rulings, then we still had to constantly monitor and regulate things for many years afterwards (think it was a total of about 7 years we were tied up with that).

Secondly--other people in similar situations are very likely to open this sort of thread. Even if the OP's situation has resolved, it's good to revisit so the info can be updated and help others.


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You are right, it's always good information to review. I was just referring to the old thread being bumped. And I would love to hear from the OP and see if there is an update.


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Sorry to burst bubbles but the last time I checked Gonny24 is from an english speaking part of the US. The Virgin Islands are divided between the US and Britian.

However an Elder Law attorney can suggest many things depending on what is required. In some states the person that is appointed to preserve and protect can either be called a conservitor or guardian. You can have both at the same time, one for the money and the other for the well being of the person. Personally I feel trusts are overrated since they must be directed by someone and that person can,depending on how it is drawn up, receive a fee for services. A guardian/conservitor can also receive a fee or charge costs from the funds/property they are in charge of but these must be reviewed by the court. If you have $500K or above or very complicated estate a trust may be good but for the average person they are not.


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(I was referring to the syntax, which indicates a non-native speaker, regardless of residence.)


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Sushi you missed my point which was the US Virgin Islands are part of the US so she is a native speaker. Some what like calling a person from New Jersey or Alabama a non-native speaker. Different areas of the US speak differently.


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Check the syntax. And someone can live in the US or any territory and not be a "native" --as in first language-- English speaker, right?


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