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krycek1984

Uneven floor / pergo

krycek1984
10 years ago

Our house is over a hundred years old, and we are remodeling it. In the main living area we are putting pergo down for several reasons. The main problem is that our current hardwood is uneven in spots. The areas between joists are lower the the hardwood above the joists.

How do we install the pergo without it creaking? Should we put a very thick pad down? Our pergo choice has padding attached. Will the padding help minimize creaking and any bounce? We are at a loss. Sould we run the pergo parallel to the current joists or perpendicular?

Comments (7)

  • live_wire_oak
    10 years ago

    The floor has to be flat or else you put stress and strain on the locking mechanism and it can break. What you're describing isn't a minor out of level issue. It's a remove the hardwood and existing subfloor, install blocking between the joists (potentially sister the joists also, depending on their spacing) and then install a new flat subfloor. Once that's taken care of, then you can install the flooring of your choice. What you CAN NOT do is to put the laminate down over the old hardwood that's sagging.

  • krycek1984
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    There is no sub floor...since it is so old, the wood was simply put on on top of the joists, it's the same at our current house. Can we use a leveling cement/product on the floor and then lay a new subfloor over that? The dips are not very deep/large.

  • annzgw
    10 years ago

    Sorry, but you can't do much different than what livewire described.
    Adding cement or a leveling product will just add weight to an already sagging problem.
    If you don't correct the support structure of the floor you're going to always have a problem. That's just part of owning an old home.

    If repairing the floor isn't in your budget, why not just refinish the hardwood you have and live with it for now?

  • erinsean
    10 years ago

    When our laminate floor was laid, the installer used leveling compound in the spots that were low. Then he put a thin layer of underlayment down (it was blue and not attached to the laminate floor). If you think the "sags" are caused by the flooring/joists, maybe being too far apart or weak, you should probably talk to a structural engineer to give you some advice.

  • User
    10 years ago

    Sags between joists mean that the joists are undersized, or too far apart, especially by today's standards. The floorboards don't have enough support, and thus sag. You need to do as LWO says and fix the support problem first. Otherwise it's a waste of money putting anything on top of that. That goes for flooring, cabinets, countertops.....all of that is compromised by the insufficient support that your current floor joists are providing.

  • krycek1984
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Update...partner looked in basement, he is more handy then me. Apparently the joists run perpendicular to the dips, as does the hardwood obviously. S these small dips are actually perpindicular to the joists. They are barely noticeable, not a very large dip, I never even realized it was there until recently. We laid some of our "test laminate" we purchased and there is only a problem with one of the "dips"...the rest lay sufficiently flat.

    We can't just refinish the hardwood because the dogs will tear it up with their nails. A good laminate is our only option to keep our home looking decent.

    Next time I go to house ill look more closely at what's going on and if it is just one area...just saw the one area and panicked!!!! If it is a systemic issue we will have a structural person pay a visit.

  • GreenDesigns
    10 years ago

    If it's out of level over 3/16th over 10', you'll void the warranty. Worse than "creaking", the floor itself will become damaged from the flexing. The tongue will crack. If you can't get the floor flat by rebuilding it, then don't bother with laminate. Maybe a snap together vinyl plank floor would work better. It's much more flexible and the floor doesn't have to be as flat.

    Good luck with your project.