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kitchen and family room alignment?

mellyc123
10 years ago

I would like feedback on options for our remodel.
We are moving the kitchen, stairs and a bathroom and adding an additional bath and den. We are adding support beams where needed. The total length of the house from front door to the sliders at the back is about 33.6'. The total for the kichen breakfast area will be about 22' 6" long and 11'.

We have a pool and conservation lot and lots of wildlife. Kids have a loft upstairs where they play video games. All bedrooms are upstairs.

Option 1 - Architect Proposed. I like the sliding doors and it has the huge island I requested. I don't like the breakfast room because you can not see the TV. Architect suggested making the pantry cabinets and adding a flat screen TV to this wall. Will use banquette seating and a small table. This leaves a lot of wall space in the foyer for either a built in closet or HUGE armoire type of storage.

Option 2 - switching the kitchen and breakfast room. The island is in front of the stairs if we just flip these 2 layouts. I have moved it down a few feet and bumped out the wall for banquette type seating. Pool access from kitchen would be sliding door in family room. Columns may be needed on each end of island.

Option 3 - Peninsula instead of island. Pool access is thru the sliders in the family room. However the TV is visible from the breakfast area and the table. I would probably do the same bump out of the seating area. A support column may be needed.

Ignore the appliance layout pls. if we need to add support beams we will. We need a functional layout.

Comments (8)

  • kirkhall
    10 years ago

    Personally, I like option 2--with dining room access too.
    BUT, I'd not use a slider in the family room (just a regular door) OR, I'd switch the slider so that the open side is closer to the kitchen. I'd not want to use up that entire wall of space to walking patterns...

  • User
    10 years ago

    1 is silly. 3 places to eat all in a row. I might do this, but make the breakfast area a pantry. 2 has the same issue with redundancy as 1. 3 is better if you lose the seating at the peninsula.

    I'm honestly not in love with any of this. All of the layouts are awkward and involve duplicating functions. Can't get but a glimplse of the rest of the floorplan, but it seems to have the same issues. A study next to the living space with an odd bath connected. Too many issues with the plans overall.

    Start over at the beginning with what exists now, and revisit your goals for the home. This will be a very expensive remodel, and there is no reason to spend so much when you're getting such poor results.

  • mellyc123
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    thank you. What do you think of this option?

    Wants for the new space -
    Office with a door that closes.
    Island that seats 4.
    Be able to watch deer while having breakfast.
    Storage for things like the vacuum cleaner.
    Backpack/shoe storage.
    Watch TV with breakfast
    We do need a dining table 1 or 2 times a year.
    We need a downstairs full bath/guest room for when elderly parents visit.
    The new plan has a shower under the stair area.
    Pool bath would be nice but is the first thing to go if we have any major issues during construction.

    We have a loft upstairs so the family room is not used by the entire family very often.

  • live_wire_oak
    10 years ago

    I don't like any of the first ones either. In the last one, the breakfast area is MUCH too crowded and awkward to use for everyday dining. The combo living/dining room is awkward. The study cannot be used as a guest room as it has no access to a full bath. It might better occupy the space you're trying to use as the dining space, Take down the wall between the current study and the living space so the dining space that is both formal and casual can occupy the central space between the living and kitchen. Perhaps the space between the kitchen and the front room that you are trying to use as a breakfast area would be best reimagined as a full bath to serve the guest room/study. Or maybe the room you are designating as the study would make a better kitchen since it's next to the garage.

    Or, check your costs, and do a teardown. Remaking so much of an older home and adding an addition is likely to actually be more expensive than starting from scratch.

    Time to go COMPLETELY back to the drawing board.

    This post was edited by live_wire_oak on Tue, Mar 11, 14 at 10:11

  • chispa
    10 years ago

    I don't think you have the room for a separate breakfast area. I would eliminate that and have one nice large eating area that gets used every day. You don't have spare space to have a dining room that is only used a few times per year. You current ideas leave you with a bunch of too small rooms.

  • lavender_lass
    10 years ago

    #2 since the bay window gives you more light! I like the peninsula overlooking the family room, too :)

  • camlan
    10 years ago

    Could you move the office and bathroom to the front of the house where the dining room now is?

    Then you could run kitchen/eating area/living room along the back of the house.

    Do you really need three eating areas? Could you not position the island eating area to look out a window? Or consider not having a kitchen island and having an L shaped kitchen with a round kitchen table in the middle.

    Another option is to get a small tv just for the breakfast nook, if that's important to you. I wouldn't let seeing the living room tv from an eating area drive the entire design plan. If you have a good plan that doesn't allow that, but everything else works, just get another tv for the nook.

  • annzgw
    10 years ago

    Of the 3 I prefer the second choice.
    Rethink the 9x11' area in the 3rd choice, especially since you have a counter overhang. I have a similar area of 9 1/2' but since my counter overhangs the area I only have 8 1/2' of useable space for table and chairs. It's gets cramped with 4 people sitting at one time.
    I like the sliding door idea simply because I enjoy mine so much. The one in my FR leads to a deck and I really enjoy having the door open (and screen closed) on nice days. But, as mentioned above, move the open side toward the kitchen area.