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Posted by jane__ny (My Page) on Sat, Nov 7, 09 at 21:51
| We have an agreed upon offer and buyers are having the house inspected on Wed. I know the buyers will be present with their agent. I would like to be there also. Is that customary or am I overstepping?
Thanks,
Jane |
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| I was told to leave. My agent said it was easier for the buyers to discuss any issues without me there. |
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| I was there for two of the homes we sold because the buyers arranged the inspection at inconvenient times for my family. The first time I wasn't even notified of the time the inspector was coming and I was in the middle of a project with a school aged child when the inspector (without buyers) showed up at the door with the realtor. I had 4 young children and wasn't about to leave for 2 or 3 hours without being forewarned. The inspector and realtor had no issue with it and I stayed in the dining room working on the project with my child while they inspected away. The second time the buyers wanted to arrange the inspection for a specific day and I suggested the following day since we would be out of town the following day. I was busy doing laundry and packing for a house hunting trip out of state. Again, laundry for a family of 6 isn't a small ordeal and is pretty time intensive. The buyers couldn't schedule for the next day and said it was okay for me to be there for inspection. I stayed out of their way, and had absolutely no interaction with the buyers. The inspector did ask me one question, but it wasn't anything that seriously needed my input. All the other homes we sold, inspections were scheduled for when we were not at home. I think you can be there if you choose, but you may leave yourself open to questioning from the buyers or inspector. That may or may not be a good thing. On one hand you may answer an inspector's question which clarifies a potential problem, it's nipped in the bud before it hits the inspection report (signs of a plumbing leak, was it properly fixed etc.). On the other hand interaction with the buyers may inadvertently give them pause and some unknown reason to back out. To be safe, I think if you can be gone you should be. If you can't then be as unobstrustive as possible, stay out of their way and let them go about their business. |
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I stayed, let the guy in, told him where I would be if he had any questions, then disappeared. He did come and ask me a couple of things. |
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| No, you don't have to leave. We were home for all of the buyers's inspections on the homes we sold. Just read a book or go about your business. Don't follow them around. NancyLouise |
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| It is your house. The potential buyers do not own it (yet). No one can make you leave. I recall reading a few stories on this board about the pros and cons of staying... the pros were if the inspector was clueless about something, the homeowner being there helped to show that something that was supposedly "broken" was just not being operated correctly by the inspector. Other pros included correcting the inspector if s/he aged something major incorrectly (roof looks to be at end of life when in fact it is 10 years old, etc). The cons seemed to center around answering questions you may not want to be answering. Good luck! |
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| I stayed for the last two. Before then, inspections were rare. But the opportunity for a quick buck, aided and abetted by "consumer reporting", soon became a tsunami and you can't avoid being swamped. I told the first inspector to keep his ladder off my gutters, so he didn't leave two telltale dents and scraped paint. (When I deliver luxury homes, I have buyers who would insist on repair/replacement for that damage and they'll get it.) The second inspector turned off the air conditioner for the hour he was there on a steaming day. When he decamped, it wouldn't switch on. As I suspected, a large bug had gotten into the contactor. I also enjoyed his big show of opening and closing all the windows on my six year old home--to see if they opened and closed. You're there if they have a question. But generally stay out of the way, especially if the buyers are there too. |
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| xamsx: "correcting the inspector if s/he aged something major incorrectly (roof looks to be at end of life when in fact it is 10 years old, etc)." End of life does not always refer to age...it refers to condition. There have been a number of issues with defective shingles, failing way before their time. That said, jane ny, do what works best for you...but if you choose to stay, best to refrain from participating in the process unless asked. Best wishes that all goes smoothly. |
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| Thanks, I'm very nervous as I've never sold a home before. I think I got everything fixed I could find before I listed, but who knows?? I don't know the first thing about foundations, furnace, AC, pipes, well, septic. I keep walking around the house looking for things wrong. I discovered a few little cracks I never noticed before...I just hope I survive this 'selling process.' I guess I'll hang around and hide somewhere, Jane |
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| We met our inspector at the home and stayed there. Although we did not "follow" him around, we were aware of what he was doing. |
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| "I guess I'll hang around and hide somewhere" As a seller, I wouldn't want to be around. As a buyer, I relish talking to sellers! It is amazing what you can learn by asking a few innocent questions.... Your better off letting your agent field questions with responses such as "I'll have to ask the owner and get back to you". At least that buys time to come up with an acceptable reply. |
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| I think it might be good to be there on the inspection - no one can force you to leave. Keep a pleasant attitude. I agree not all inspectors are good. We saw a previous home inspection for the house we ended up buying - the inspector reported that the front bedroom windows were jammed shut, probably due to shifting in the foundation. In reality, the windows opened smooth as butter - the guy just didn't know how to open them (they are old-style windows where you have to simultaneously push down a small metal lever and lift up). I thought they were jammed too, until the realtor (selling homes in the area for close to 30 years) showed me what I was doing wrong. No one was there with the inspector when he wrote up his report. |
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| Thought I'd update on my inspection. I decided to stay and keep out of their way. Inspectors showed up with buyers, their babies and agent. There were two inspectors who split up. One stayed with the buyers and did the structural inspection and the other walked around with a check list turning on all the water, flushing toilets, turning on stove, and I'm not sure what else. Was difficult trying to stay out of the way. I sat in the sunroom reading the paper. They were in the house over 3 hours. They left my water running in all bathrooms (4) for 1 1/2 hrs. I thought I'd have a nervous breakdown because we have a well and I was worried we'd run out of water (we didn't, surprisingly). They did the dye test of the septic. The buyers are Korean as is their agent. Their agent would come to me and ask a few questions which I had difficulty understanding. I felt embarrassed. I wasn't sure what she was asking and was afraid of saying the wrong thing. When it was over, I heard the inspector telling the buyers about my fireplace and saying he would strongly recommend having it inspected by a chimney expert. I couldn't hear everything, but got worried as my fireplace was something I hadn't thought of as a problem. I also heard him tell them although the septic passed the dye test, he would recommend having a septic expert check it because there was no way to tell how well it was serviced over the 50 yrs of the house. I walked in and said I just had it pumped in May and it was fine. He asked if I had receipts and I said I did. He told the buyer to ask for all receipts and to call the company. I was shocked and said I'd be happy to turn them over to him. When the inspectors left, I asked the buyers if they had any questions about the house, the husband walked to the fireplace and said the inspector said there were cracks and it could set the house on fire. He showed me the cracks. There are a few hair-line cracks in 3 bricks on the facade. I told the buyer they were there 'forever' and we always used the fireplace. He seemed concerned (broken English) said the inspector said the cracks might go through to the liner of the chimney. He said he would call a fireplace inspector to check. When they left, I called my fireplace guy who I've used for years to clean the chimney. He said he would take a look at the cracks. He came next day and said the cracks were old settling cracks on the facade and were below the liner. He said our liner was Terracotta and he looked up the chimney with lights and said there were no cracks as all in the liner. I had him write it all down and gave his statement to my RA. We are supposed to go to contract this week unless the buyer wants an independent inspection. We haven't heard anything further on the fireplace. This is the first time I've sold a house. We are exhausted with it all and just want it all over. Still haven't had the appraisal from the bank yet and the buyers won't close until the end of Feb. They are renting a condo and can't break the lease. Thanks for all the advice. What was surprising was the length of the inspection. Jane |
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| 3 hours for an inspection is not out of the norm. The inspector was doing his job in pointing out a few areas that were out of his expertise (septic and fireplace) and telling the buyer that those were areas that needed inspection. It's a good idea to turn all of your supporting documentation regarding those areas over to your realtor. The buyer may still request his own independent inspection of those areas. It's normal for a buyer to want independent expert opinions, and hopefully that expert opinon will set the buyer's mind at ease. Good luck, hang in there! |
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| I know this is a bit old now, but the inspector I hired to do 2 inspections (doing the 3rd this week) recommends that you be there. I was there the first time, my Mom was there the second time as I had already left to come home and now I'm doing a 3rd inspection and no one will be there, so the inspector is my eyes and ears. He takes a lot of pictures and shows them to me on his computer, right there. When I wasn't able to be there, and even with this upcoming inspection, he emailed me all his pictures and findings. His inspections take abour 3-4 hours depending on the size of the house, I guess. Hopefully, this 3rd inspection will go well, the other two I had to walk away from due to problems. If all goes well with this inspection, I'll order the pest inspection (again) and the chimney inspection (again) I posted a while back, thank goodness for inspectors -and I'll say it again!!! |
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| We signed the contract today. I'm wondering if the buyers were planning to have other inspectors come in, when would I know that? They had signed the contract last week and the check for 25% was with my lawyer. Wouldn't I know if they planned further inspection? We are waiting the results of the well-water tests to return, but there hasn't been any notice of anything else they want. When would that come up..before closing? |
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