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Posted by sandyman720 (My Page) on Wed, Nov 4, 09 at 11:54
| There are a few area rugs in our home and the hardwood floors are stained under these rugs.
Will there be a problem at the walk through if the buyer sees the stains?
In my opinion they could have lifted up the carpets and checked for stains but my Agent seems to think I should leave the rugs or fix the floors.
Thanks for your help. |
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RE: Stain under area rugs?????
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| Absolutely you must disclose the existence of the stains. It is not reasonable to expect buyers to lift up all your rugs to check the condition of the flooring. How would you feel if YOU were buying the house and didn't find out about the stains until the walk through? IMO, it will cause a HUGE problem and may even kill the deal. |
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| As a buyer I would feel like you tried to hide it. I would put it in the disclosure and leave the rugs. This way I would know about it and would lift the rugs to see if it would bother me or if I would just have rugs at the same place anyways. Yes a buyer should do due diligence and lift the rugs, but when you do and it isn't mentioned/disclosed somewhere you wonder what else the seller is hiding. Read the thread large item missing thread about the walk through. In this case the buyer still closed, but you could get somebody that wouldn't. Then you'd be out the time off the market and the moving and still have a house for sale. |
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| In my opinion they could have lifted up the carpets and checked for stains but my Agent seems to think I should leave the rugs or fix the floors. Thats unreasonable. Should they have rearranged all your furniture to make sure there were no damage to the walls or the floors under the furniture? Put yourself in their position. If you went thru the walk thru and then saw the stains, would you feel like someone tried to pull a fast one on you? Do unto others! |
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| A former neighbor of mine purchased a home with hardwoods. They looked fine when she first viewed the home, but of course furniture was in place. The day before closing when she did her final walk through, there was a section of flooring (maybe 1 foot square) that was actually missing. It had been covered up by a piece of furniture. My neighbor found this unacceptable and negotiated a sum of money to compensate her for the wood flooring that was damaged and not disclosed. Your buyers could do the same, either renegotiate or decide not to close. I would either fix the floors or expect the price to be renogiated at closing if you didn't disclose the issue. |
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| Possible the areas under the rugs are not stained, but rather the exposed areas have faded from the sun. The reason I mention this is to pose the question: Is this then part of the average aging one would expect to find and therefore not a defect one needs to disclose? |
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| graywings - I would as a seller still disclose that as I would want the buyer to trust me. I would not want to leave anything that could cause a buyer to want to pull out of closing or re-negotiate at the end. |
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| Wow, I am impressed with all the honest sellers here. Unfortunately, when we bought our current house, we did not have the ones who disclosed stains on the floor. So we only did see during the final walk-through that some of the carpet covered by an area rug or plants was stained uncleanable or even had a huge hole from overwatering plants. We sucked it up, though, thinking we missed to check for that at the inspection and also being aware that we did NOT by a brandnew house but one that has been lived in. Although we would have loved to have a seller who would let us know before the sale, I think you cannot expect everything to be brandnew if you do not buy a new house. And yes, about the hole (now covered with a piece of the same carpet and another plant) I would inform potential buyers but certainly not about every stain in the house... |
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| Small stains on carpets, worn areas, scratches in wood etc are normal wear and tear that should be expected when buying an existing home. Missing chunks of floor???? That is over the top. |
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| Small stains on carpets, worn areas, scratches in wood etc are normal wear and tear that should be expected when buying an existing home. True, but I'd still expect a seller to leave those things as visible as possible. |
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| I once almost bought a house that I thought had hardwood floors. Turns out, the house had hardwood corridors and borders! The center of each major room was a recessed area with carpet padding, and the owners' gorgeous Oriental rugs covered them up! The owners had elected to save money by not installing hardwoods under their rugs. I absolutely felt that had been misrepresented and backed out immediately and completely. |
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| Sweeby..I've actually looked at two different homes like that!! I never got to the point of making an offer on either, but the owners of both had disclosed that the hardwoods did not extend under the area rugs. It just confused me that people did that! |
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| haha. Not helpful to the op, but this reminded me of when we bought our current house. The upstairs floors were painted and when we came in for walk through, we saw that someone had actually painted around the rug area in one room, leaving a rectangle of floor the old color! At the time, we thought it was funny... |
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