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Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

Posted by jadon (My Page) on
Thu, Nov 15, 07 at 0:20

I have two properties (single family) in California, Alameda County and have just been informed that I am required to have a business license in order to rent the properties.

I was never notified nor have I ever heard of this tax assessment and now have to pay license fees and penalties retroactive for all years that properties were rented.

Is there a law that requires the City & County of Alameda to notify landlords of this assesment? Can I fight this?

Any advice would be appreciated.


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

i don't know about CA, but here it is 100% the LL's responsibility to make sure every thing is up to code, INCLUDING making sure that teh properties are on the tax roles as rentals and that the LL has the proper license.

if the law took effect after you started renting the properties, they would have had to advertise it locally and give an effective date. if it took effect prior to your becoming a LL, then you should have checked into things a little closer.


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

Could you call an attorney to determine the answer to your questions? Perhaps an argument could be made that you should not have to pay the penalties, though I have a feeling you will be liable for the back taxes at the least. I think with a single family dwelling the government really has no way of determining your property is a rental, therefore notifying you would be impossible, unless I'm missing something?


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

DON'T DUE IT, until you check with the Attorney General of that county. We had rentals in CA and never had to get a license. Who notified you? If you cannot get a satisfactory answer, go to the Attorney General of Calif. Remember, this is the bay area and many times they do thing just above board, until they get caught. Make them show you the law in their book, and I don't think they can go back years. Taxes yes, licenses, no! Check with RE offices that handle rentals--a single person renting cannot be made to pay these fees unless all corporations and others pay and I do believe you have to be notified in writing and these fees must be published in the paper. Don't let some "jerk" try to get money from you. Just tell them you have to check with your attorney and the RE commissioner in Sacramento. Be polite, firm and document all phone calls who, when what was said and if there were any "causal" threats.
Let us know
Hugs and good luck


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Aupdatelameda County

Also I do not think you need any landlord needs a license to rent only 2 houses. We never did.


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

In know that in Santa Barbara County one does need a business license and must pay the tax annually. This is true for all rental properties, from single family dwellings to large commercial properties. It is a law, and as the old saw goes "ignorance of the law is no excuse". The OP is in a different county, but chances are good the laws are quite similar.


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

Well, rather than guessing I checked the Alameda County website. It says that, yes, if you are a LL in unincorporated Alameda County you need a business license. If you are within the City of Alameda you should take a look at their website.

/tricia

Here is a link that might be useful: Alameda County Business Licenses


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

The way I interpreted this is only if you as a LL were leasing out a residential or business. I did not see anyplace about renting, but then I probably missed it. I did ask our tax person (CPA) in CA (Los Angeles County) about license, and she said no unless it was an apartment or over so many single dwellings. The only thing I can suggest it talk to your tax person and your lawyer.
I cannot imagine every one who rented out one or two home having to get a business license or they insisting you go back to when you started.
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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

Lawyer up.
You are not in the leasing business.
You do not find tenants for hire for other property owners.

Sounds like a little 'creative' interpretation to squeeze $$.


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

You are not in the leasing business.
You do not find tenants for hire for other property owners.
Sounds like a little 'creative' interpretation

Uh, no.....I think it is you with the creative interpretation. ;-)

Most municipalities require landlords to obtain business licenses. Now, some municipalities have different thresholds and exempt "small" landlords. For example, where I live in Montgomery County, MD, every landlord needs a license unless the property is also owner-occupied and the owner is only renting out a room or two in his own house. However, if you rent out three rooms then you must obtain a license to be a landlord.

I'm not going to bother to google California real estate law, but I have no doubt that if the OP has two distinct single family rental properties, then a license would be required. I only hope for his sake that he has been claiming the income on Schedule E of his Federal 1040, because Alameda County may have reported him to either the state or IRS for possible income tax evasion since they already know that he has been surreptitiously (either knowingly or unknowingly) operating as a landlord and has evaded paying county fees.


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

Most Landlord do not meet the 500 hours pro test for business and do not have any trade activity character of business. Rental income is passive income, not business income.

Therefore MPMC 5.12.043 Commercial Rental Business should not apply to All Landlords in the City.

Licenses Required for Some Businesses in Los Angeles california
http://www.lacounty.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/b0/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOJNvVw8TMx9DAwMzJ1cDIx8DDxCjR1DDA2cjfQLsh0VAR8ETWE!/
Not all businesses must apply for licenses to operate in unincorporated areas of the County. Generally, a business is required to be licensed if it is subject to County health or safety regulations.
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE APPLYING FOR A COUNTY BUSINESS LICENSE

Californians can pursue class-action lawsuits against cities and counties if they were charged an illegal local tax
http://ivn.us/2011/07/27/california-state-supreme-court-allows-class-action-lawsuits-against-illegal-local/

http://city.udn.com/62934/4900017

Here is a link that might be useful: http://city.udn.com/62934/4900017

This post was edited by ddlkmm on Wed, Dec 12, 12 at 13:43


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RE: Business License For Rental Property - Alameda County

"Most municipalities require landlords to obtain business licenses."

Not so.

Most LLs do not qualify as being in "business" of leasing.


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