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Posted by karpet (My Page) on Tue, Feb 9, 10 at 9:56
| It's taken me a couple years to realize that I am forum challenged. I am not good at walking the line of saying TMI or not saying anything, so I tend to not say anything. If I respond to a thread, I find myself writing an essay, going back and deleting, editing, changing it until I'm not sure how it reads or I just delete the whole thing altogether. I have most of my reactions, responses in my head (even in real life) and am not good at communicating. The older I get, the more I realize how odd I am (and the less concerned about it I am!?!)
Do you tend to be different online then in real life? Do you struggle with saying too much or holding back? What things are worthwhile to you for others to share? What could you do without? Just curious.
Karlene |
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Karlene, I struggle with this also. I'm always wondering if some of the others are sighing and saying to themselves, oh, here we go again, TMI and going off subject! So I've tried to stay on subject (quilting) at least as best as I can when I initiate a post. At least the people who use this forum are polite and don't beat people up for their misuses like I've seen some of the other forums do. And as for differences of behavior, I'm the same way offline except for close family and friends. What I like to see here are conversations about quilting. If it strays a little into other areas that's fine as long as the main subject (quilting) is returned to. As for ranting and raving about other subjects, I'm wondering if the other link for off-subject conversations is more appropriate? I looked at it once and there didn't seem to be much in there. Does anyone else know what it's for? Rita |
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| It's interesting that you've brought up the subject of off topic conversations. A couple of years ago that very issue reared its ugly head and it was very hotly debated. Some people left the forum and created a new forum elsewhere. Others just disappeared. I believe that's when the "conversation" area was developed. Since then many new members have arrived and things semm to be agreeable to everyone. Hope it stays that way. I seem to be busy with many things and don't post often, but do check in regularly. |
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| I was thinking the same thing, chickadee. We had a major blow up over the OT posts on here, and some people left this forum. I was just thinking the other day how focused this forum is on quilting now. I don't mind a few OT posts, but we did have a couple of posters who went a little overboard. At one time the garden web moderators actually were moving posts into the conversations tab. Karpet, if you have an essay in your head about a topic, we may be interested in your thoughts! |
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| I honestly don't think my thoughts would be that interesting to someone else! Just a lot of 'blah, blah, blah'. There was a big blow up here - I'm glad it has settled down again. I also saw that on another forum. I've been surprised to see 2 different times where someone created a whole on-line story, had a very dramatic circumstance occur, and then use it to defraud other members. That would really take a lot of time and effort to plan and execute a scheme like that. I know most are who they say they are. I do like to talk about quilting since my only links to a quilting community is on-line, but who wants to hear a play-by-play of ideas, decisions, side-tracks, etc. as you work on each project, unless you are a talented writer, which I am not. So I mainly read. Even with the common interest of quilting, we still come at it from such different perspectives! And it's hard to not share what is going on in your life because I find that effects what I'm making, why, and how long it takes me :) |
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| I find that just like families and groups of friends in the real world, forums have their own personalities and what may be acceptable in one forum, is not in another. Here I keep my posts on-topic because that's the personality of this forum. I belong to a sewing machine forum that's very chatty and OT posts are allowed, although the moderator will usually shut them down if they go on for more than day or two. Both groups are warm and friendly, just in different ways and that's fine with me. It's my responsibility to play by the rules of the forum. I do like to write and share what I know, so it's sometimes hard for me not to get too wordy. One thing I do like about this group is that everyone is very, very encouraging. You are all free with your praise and good, practical knowledge that I know is a great benefit to the many new quilters who find their way here. The fact that they stay is a testimony to that. |
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Karlene, I have read your posts and I think you are interesting!!!!! This forum was so active years ago that there would be pages of posts and pics in just one day. Sadly it has been so slow for a couple of years that I was afraid it was going to be abandoned. Many of the original members are working hard to keep it alive (and non combative LOL). It is not possible to please everyone and if something is posted I'm not interested in I simply don't read the post. We were using the gallery to post pics and the conversation area was active too. Now the discussion forum posts are so few that it doesn't seem necessary to use the gallery or conversations. There were a lot of OT posts that for some reason angered some members and they felt obligated to post a nasty response. Actually some of the quilt related posts cause a few probs too lol!!!! We have a lot of talent on this forum and warm members, we also lost talent. I have been quilting for years and I always learn something new on this forum. IMO we have many 'lurkers' that for some reason do not post, I wish they would join in so we can keep the forum alive. Rosa |
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I think it takes practice to learn to communicate one's thoughts and feeling on any subject. Forums are a good place to practice. Here you have only the written word to help you express your ideas and feelings. If you find success on a forum communicating think how much more impressive you will be in person when you can use your tone and body language to help you make your point. |
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| I tend to write an essay, too, because if a topic gets me thinking I'll look it up in books and chew it over for a while. Then I want to talk! I like a few easy OT's here and there, like sharing your feelings about the local weather. I wouldn't like someone running their own personal soap opera thread, but I feel good when someone keeps us informed of major developments. Who are we if can't offer a word of support and bits of advice to our quilting buddies? And I think I might like anybody's thread that detailed a play by play of every little hiccup and decision in making a quilt. As a matter of fact, I'll take this moment to make that very request of anyone willing to take the time. I'm so new to everything I'd give a lot to know a more experienced person's process. :) |
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| I have been told by people that know me in person and on line that I write just like I talk. I feel like I do but it was good to hear them say it. I tend to babble about things I'm enthusiastic about so I'm sure some times I write too much, but I love to hear the details of your quilts too. As long as it's even slightly related to the process of quilting, write on! If it's totally unrelated but still something you want to share with this group of on-line friends, then maybe the Conversations page is the right place. Either place, I don't think TMI is an issue because if someone doesn't want to read it all, then they can skim over your post but I would bet everyone enjoys the details as much as I do. I don't think I was here when when the off-topic thing got hot so I don't know what it was all about, but the Conversation page is a great place for anything like that. If you want everyone to see something there, I even think it's OK to post a notice on this Discussions side, with a subject line like "OT: Exercise Plan?". Then in the message part of the post something like "Go to the Conversation page for a discussion about exercise and weight loss." On the Florida Gardening Forum we use the Conversations page often for everything from hurricane discussions, to pet pictures, to health issues, to favorite books and TV shows. Kate |
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| I agree with Kate. We all have the option of reading or not reading if the subject doesn't interest us. So write your head off Karlene. It gives us something interesting to read and think on and it gets it off your chest. We often say quilting is our best therapy and writing on the forum is second best. We're not going to censor you nor put you down. Everyone is entitled to say their piece. It gives us a better shot at getting to know you. |
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| This IS the place to natter on about design decisions, what fabric to use, all of that. If you write a novel, and I'm bored, I can hit the "back" button, LOL. But generally, I enjoy the *novel* type posts. I was here when the Great Forum War was in full swing (I've been here since the forum was created), and I hope never to see that happen again. I could write a novella about that, LOL, but I won't. |
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| I wasn't part of this forum when it had its problems, but in doing searches here on certain topics to learn about quilting techniques, I stumbled on part of that past fighting. I do not ever want to be part of that nastiness. Coming here is a break from my business world & my family world. I have learned more about real quilting then I can express. I feel like I have a board of experts to ask questions and point me in the right direction. As a result, I have purchased books, supplies, and made cyber friends, some I may even meet in real life someday. I am even reading the Elm Creek novels (I am on #3) as a result of the Sylvia's Bridal Sampler posting. I know I would not be pushing myself to learn different techniques if I was not reading and posting here. This forum has even influenced some of the classes I have taken, simply because of the excitement generated by someone's posting or project. I absolutely agree that the OT stuff can get out of hand if allowed to. I ranted yesterday about the weather - my bad :-( It kept me from sewing, I'm behind in my blocks, and quilts, and yeah, technically the post should have been in conversations - but frankly I would not have seen it, because there is little activity there. If there was, I would check daily. (On the cooking forum, I know to check there everyday ). It's easy to pass threads if you don't like the subject. I have no problem posting in which ever area we are supposed to. If the moderators move the weather thread to conversations - no big deal to me. It is nice to have some fluff sometimes - mine just happens to be the white, wet, flakey kind right now -(OT). And I appreciate the warm thoughts. Karlene, I've always thought you were interesting. patsy - Diary of a Mad Quilter - --I think a great idea! |
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| I think I may have missed the "bad" times on the forum, if not they went over my head. I like it here, I like the people, the topics, and the occasional OT's. I enjoy hearing about what people are doing and what is happening in their lives. I seldom,(almost never) go into conversations and don't think of the gallery unless someone mentions it. I am stimulated, educated, and rewarded here by those who are veteran and newbies. I hope it doesn't change but becomes more active. If it's not interesting to me I skip over it, but not often as who knows what you miss without looking. Jayne |
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| No need to apologize about the weather related posts. I can't imagine anyone minding about that once in a while. |
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| I've been on this forum for many years and I find it's the easiest forum to navigate and the members are very helpful with sharing their talents and suggestions. It was a much more active forum in the past but seems to be picking up some. I read just about every day but don't post very lengthy remarks but really enjoy seeing all your pictures and picking up all your quilting tips and ideas. I am always sewing and quilting and haven't posted pictures much -- only because of laziness. I just ignored the nastiness that went on a few years back. Thank you all for your help and suggestions -- this is my only quilting class ever. |
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/great topic. I am generally a lurker for the very reasons you stated....thinking too much, re-writing, corrections, trying not to "blah blah blah" on to much. I think this is a great forum. I have learned a lot reading what you ladies/gentlemen post. Good to know that I don't necessarily have to be so careful of my postings to be involved. I generally read every day. Right now not so much, away from home and on a borrowed computer. Thanks for so much information from a newbie quilter. Murphy. |
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| Jayne wrote exactly what I was thinking. This isn't real life; it's not like getting stuck in a face to face conversation. I never understood the complaints against off-topic posts. If something doesn't interest you, skip over it. When I respond, I usually add some memory or story from my life that relates. You guys are certainly free to skip to the "meat" of the answer. I like it here. Karpet, post away. Dianne |
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I like to hear what everyone is doing and how it relates to your quilting. It makes the forum more like a real quilting bee. When I am with my quilting friends, we talk about things going on in our lives as well as our quilting interests. . Keep posting... I AM interested. Linda |
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You all are great! I am so glad this forum is here. I've been sewing since the 4th grade when my grandparents spent $200 on each grandchild with something that would invest in their future and that meant a Kenmore machine for my and my female cousin! And then 20 years ago I had a B.S. teacher offer to show anyone interested how to make a log cabin baby quilt. I had an infant at the time and it was so fun to find something creative to do. I've stuck with fairly simple quilts since I'm impatient and would rather have it done and move on to the next one, but hopefully have built some skills along the way. Life and circumstances completely affect my quilting - I'm either tempted to 'hide' in my quilting since it is simpler than dealing with people, or I can be so weighed down with situations that it saps my interest in quilting. I always try to keep people first, quilting second and cleaning is a distant third! I love that at the end of a project there is something to show for it - I hate cleaning because in 30 min. it can look like nothing ever happened! Okay, closing down the essay! Karlene |
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Karlene loved your essay, it was very interesting LOL!!!!!! I also hide in my quilting sometimes, it relaxes me. I think my cleaning has slipped past third, for some strange reason I dreamed about dust bunnies under the bed. I am afraid to look! Marge the weather post WAS about quilting, we had to vent about how in some way it was affecting our quilting LOL!!!!!! The only way we get to know each other is through posting, thoughts and pics. I think we have a great forum too, so let's keep it going. Rosa |
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I had planned to take a quick peek & get on w/my sewing (having a hard time getting moving this am - fibro & arth hitting hard today,bummer!) But I've read & enjoyed every word on this thread - you all have interesting & valid points. Glad I wasn't around during the 'war' - life has enough drama w/out having it on the web! I too tend to ramble, but it's hard to say what you want in a 'reader's digest' version (at least for me) Did NOT mind the weather ranting at all! - it was interesting to see what everyone was dealing with - altho I must admit I have little sympathy for anyone who sees green out their windows even if it's wet! lol! I love to see the beauty of snow (how did God make something so cold & wet look so awesomely splendid??!) but I'm sure some will agree, enough already! I want to dig in the dirt! Enough rambling, 'will read other threads & hit the machine, almost finished w/a scrap quilt made totally of 1 1/2" sq- leftovers of the sampler on my bed. Tedious but fun - & practically free:)! |
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Rosa-I'm Marsha :) I went back to check the weather post to make sure you meant me....there is a Marge here, and I don't mind saying if she lives where there is no snow, I want to be Marge! Blizzard here again - we do not ever get this!!!! Since we are OT with stories - I had a client who refused to call me by my correct name - she was a bit looney - but she said I looked like a (name) . I'm in sales - it is important to get the right named salesperson. For years, the people who answered the phones had a note by their telephones to direct all calls for (name) to me. They kept saying -correct her - well, I tried for the first few years- it was just easier to answer to the name she wanted to call me. All that said, I can answer to Marge, but its taken here. ~LOL~ |
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| Marsha, I got a kick out of your being called by another name. I have another name as well, I was "Bucky" where I worked and I doubt if anyone really new my real name so now that I am retired I at least know where people knew me from. Jayne |
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I had to laugh at the name thing! With my name being unusual, I've grown accustomed over the years to answering to anything that is in the ballpark like Karen, Karla, Carrie, etc. The one that bugged me was a guy who called my chlorine! Karlene |
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