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Obsessing over pool finishes

megankheaps
13 years ago

Hello all,

I am looking for any and all advice on pool finishes. We will be signing the contract for our new pool tomorrow evening and while I know that we have plenty of time to decide on a pool finish (won't be plastered until spring) we are are still obsessing over which one would be the best for our family. We feel we need to decide now because if we do choose an alternative finish we have to see it in person before we make a final decision on color and people will be closing their pools in the next few months and they won't be open by the time we get plaster. I have read mixed reviews on Pebble Tech with some saying it hurts the feet. I certainly don't want to spend over 9k on a pool finish and HATE it and have my kids (7 and 3) complaining about it as well. We were quoted 9k for PebbleTec (they are running a special now) and 9K for DiamondBrite. As of now the pool is set to be white plaster but we are willing to upgrade if we can find something that would work better for us. The pool will be 1000 sq ft with a 70 sq ft spa, natural flagstone coping, exposed aggregate decking and a natural trim/stair tile. We do not want anything that would make the pool look green or anything that is too dark. We want to go blue. There are so many alternatives to Pebble Tec/fina/sheen that I am not familiar with. I have never been in a pool with Pebble Tec and certainly would not put it in my pool until I got to try it and actually see the color in person that I want. It is not something that a lot of people here in the mid atlantic do I guess. Should I just stick with the white plaster or go with one of the alternatives. I do understand that plaster will not last as long but I can always do an alternative finish sometime in the future. HELP HELP HELP.

Comments (24)

  • megankheaps
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Carribean Blue and Tahoe Blue were both on special for 9K. I was not sure if you thought 9K was high or low for 1000 sq ft plus a 70 sq ft spa??????? Regular plaster is included in the base price of the pool so yes that 9K would be an additional cost. I had one PB quote me 13K for a slightly larger pool for the lowest "grade" (lightest color) of PebbleTec.

  • huskyridor
    13 years ago

    Don't pay an extra 9k on Diamond Brite if you can get Pebble Tec/Sheen for the same price. The D-Brite should be 2 grand less unless it's a Midnight Blue.
    Quite honestly the PebbleTec seems high too. In my area, SE Texas, this would be a 5-6k upgrade for P-Tec on a 1000 square pool.

    I'm curious, what part of the country are you in?

    See ya,
    Kelly

  • rice_rocket
    13 years ago

    I concur--seems like it's on the high side for the upgrade price on the PebbleTec unless it was for PebbleFina. But by the sound of your colors, it's regular PebbleTec.

    You also mentioned not wanting anything green. Keep in mind that anytime you have tan or yellowish/brownish pebbles in the mix, it will bias the water color towards green. You want white and blue pebbles/plaster to keep the water looking blue.

    You can see this effect by simply looking at the PebbleTec color charts on their site. Click the following link to judge for yourself: Sky Blue seems the lightest and bluest in this color chart.

  • megankheaps
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    @huskyridor-we are in MD. Just between Baltimore and DC. Just from what I have seen on this site, it does seem that alternative finishes are more popular in the south. I live in a neighborhood of 30 homes and when we get ours 16 will have pools. 2 are vinyl/shell and the rest are gunite. Only 1 person has PebbleTec (and that was told to me by another neighbor so I don't even know if it is really PebbleTec-people seem to use that term for all finishes other than plaster). One neighbor does have dark plaster but that is not something I am interested in at all for fear of not seeing a child in trouble and SNAKES. Even the PB said to go with PebbleTec and not DiamondBrite if there is no price difference. It is just that they are running a special right now and that is why those 2 colors are the same price as the DiamondBrite.

    @rice rocket-thank you for the tip on the pebble colors. Even if we do an alternative to PebbleTec I will make sure it is blue and white. Is PebbleFina the most expensive of the 3? The fact that it is most like plaster would lead me to believe it is cheaper.

    Anyone familiar with anything other than the PebbleTec lines???? There does not seem to be much uniformity amongst opinions of pool finishes. This decision would be a whole lot easier if EVERYONE LOVED PebbleTec or finishes other than white plaster.

  • rice_rocket
    13 years ago

    Yes--PebbleFina should be the most expensive. It's mainly because the installers have to come back a second day after spraying on the finish and polish it so that it becomes "smoother" like plaster.

    And don't let the "feel" fool ya--the pebble finishes will last much longer than plaster. It may be harder to find a PebbleFina--the PebbleTec site says it's only available in limited areas.

    You may want to contact an alternative company who's product is more popular in my neck of the woods: Wet Edge Technologies. Their Primera Stone finish should be almost identical to Pebble Fina.

    Here's my photo of Blue Pacific Coast sample, the color we chose for our pool:

  • megankheaps
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Thank you so much. Wet Edge was one of the many sites my husband had sent to me and asked me to look into. Do you have any pics of your pool finished with that color Wet Edge that you would be able to share with me? What part of the country are you located? We did have one PB come in and his base pool price included PebbleFina but he didn't price each base item out so I have no idea what it was running. At least I know it is done in our area so I could find it if I liked it.

  • rice_rocket
    13 years ago

    Here's a pool (in Houston I think) finished in Primera Blue Pacific Coast: Houston Pool Renovations. A couple of interesting photos showing it being applied.

    Here's Primera Black Kona in mudn's pool in Nothern California.

  • lookingforapool
    13 years ago

    Wetedge "pebble" finish. Color is Pearl.

  • lnkholder
    13 years ago

    Your preferences sound a bit like ours. We went with an exposed aggregate deck and wanted a true blue interior without much green. Our pool is much smaller than yours - we're in northern California, where yards tend to be small.

    I can definitely recommend the Pebblesheen in Bordeaux, which for us was the same price as the first (lowest) tier pebbletec colors. The Bordeaux has a purplish tint to the plaster which sounds odd, but actually looks great in the water and coordinates beautifully with the plum creek aggregate we used. On the top step it looks almost like a continuation of the plum creek, and in the deep end it's a true blue.

    I find it hard to capture the color with my cell phone camera. The apparent color varies not only with the exposure, but also the time of day and how much it's reflecting the surrounding greenery. (You can see from the shadows that we prioritized trees and shade in our baking hot sun.) I tried to choose the photos I think best represent the true color but these all look a little too greenish on my monitor. It's not a vibrant color; the vibe we were going for was more refreshing shady pond than carribean resort, and I think we've achieved that.


  • lnkholder
    13 years ago

    The bordeaux pebblesheen looks nothing like the color shown on the website. We would never have chosen it if we hadn't seen a pool in real life and fallen in love with the color. Here are shots of our sample, taken against our exposed aggregate as a backdrop. I also took a shot of the other side so you can see the purplish cast of the plaster.

  • kevink109
    12 years ago

    Inkholder-

    Did you have Adams pools do the pebblesheen? Happy with the service, quality of the job?

    Thanks Kevin

  • scl4
    12 years ago

    Have you considered using tile throughout? We remodeled our plaster pool a few years ago and used 1 x1 tile throughout, with a waterline and steps of 4 x 4 contrasting tile. It is the EASIEST thing to keep clean, chemical balance is effortless.

    I expect it will last far longer than our plaster finish did, and it looks so much more sophisticated.

  • scl4
    12 years ago

    Here are some links to tiled pools. Most pools in Hawaii are completely tiled and hold up well with year-round use.

    http://www.hawaiihomeandremodeling.com/articles/2006/june/into_the_blue

    A friend used the pebble tile which was amazing and not that expensive. Don't have a photo of her pool, but check it out here.

    http://www.stratastones.net/image/Pebble-Tile-Infinity-Pool.html?PHPSESSID=95e8b0d9c041dc391499af9f91d3a98d

  • qofmiwok
    12 years ago

    That's funny, because I've been in Hawaii 6 years and have yet to see a tiled pool. I actually was considering it since I need replastering, but the pool guy says it's a pain to clean the algae off the grout. The pool builders we're talking to say they're really not less maintenance because you have to drain them every 4-5 years and re-grout. Otherwise the tiles start popping off. I thought it might be a do-it-yourself job since I enjoy tiling, but they have to replaster it anyway before tiling or the tile comes off. So at that point it's just a lot of extra expense.

    Anyone cares to dispute this, I'd love to hear your experience with tile! Everyone seems to have different experiences.

  • lnkholder
    12 years ago

    I hope this isn't finding you too late Kevin, but yes we did use Adams. We were very happy with them; they are completely professional and the pool came out beautiful.

  • DFagan
    10 years ago

    Do any of you know about Krystalkrete and the upgrade charge for their midnight blue color?

  • noakai
    9 years ago

    Beware of pebbletec. If you have a problem with one of their finishes - I have the top of the line BeadCrete, the company absolutely does not stand behind their product . Your emails will go unanswered. Customer service will not help you. They will tell you to contact the installer. If your installer won't return your emails or calls what do you do? What does a warranty mean? Nothing ! Never use this product!!!!

  • gill4455
    8 years ago

    noakai

    yours is the most recent comment. Where are you located? What kind of problem did you encounter. I am considering the pebbletec product for my pool.

    Does anyone have a comment on how the pebbletec feels under your feet?

    Thanks

  • noakai
    8 years ago

    I have a BeadCrete finish. It feels very smooth under your feet. It consists of glass bead embedded in a plaster matrix. I am located in Ontario, Canada. The finish was very expensive ( approximately $18,000.00) for a small pool. The finish is applied by spraying it on. It is very inconsistent! There are areas of high bead density (50 beads per square inch) and areas of low bead density (10 beads pers square inch ). This produces a very uneven colour. In some areas there are no beads or matrix at all ( exposed concrete ). My finish is dark. It looks terrible. As I previously mentioned, I have complained numerous times to the Canadian distributor ( who installed it ) and to the American head office. All with no results. I am dissatisfied with both the pebbletec product itself as well as the customer service. Also be aware that it will build up a calcium carbonate film over time which will necessitate you to empty the pool and have it acid etched every couple of years to restore the finish. Otherwise, it will have a whitish film on it. Carefully investigate the finish requirements and maintenance requirements of the finish you pick.

    I am considering redoing my finish with ecofinish. It is suppose to be smooth. Does not get a calcium carbonate buildup over time. Has anyone used this finish?

  • Rankin Becher
    8 years ago

    Here is my hydrazzo.... French grey..... Eight yrs. old now

    Smooth polished finish.... And at the time half the cost of pebbletec


  • tammyward44
    7 years ago

    I'm thinking about using French grey and wondered what color of tile to use around pool line. What have you used and do you like the color of your water? I'm also going to use concrete coping.

  • Michell Schalik
    6 years ago

    I really love the French Grey Diamond Brite but I'm terrified of snakes. Can you see the bottom pretty easily?


  • Jeff Sonn
    5 years ago

    we have a less than 4 year old pool with pebble technology international's beadcrete product. it is terrible. our pool leaked and they wont stand behind it. we found out they no longer make it. stay away from any pebble technology international product IMHO.