The PC is exactly that. It works where others don't. It does not get stuck on drain covers as the Navigator does. It does not ram itself into walls and stay there are most sweeps do. It does not have a huge supply of moving parts that need replaced often. It is American made where others are not. The Navigator has gotten worse since it went to China for production.

You have to know suction sweep design to appreciate the superior technicalities of the sweep but this one has it. It is most often put up against the top selling Navigator as the Navigator has a huge market share. The truth is that the Navigator also has the most complaints and most bench time.

It is falsely compared to robotics as the price points are nowhere in the same vicinity. If you are a sweep buyer in the the sub $500 range and want quality with no headaches and are willing to pay anywhere from $50 - 100 more than the top seller, this is the sweep for you.

We sell them for $425.00 which is a great deal and the most I've seen them out there for is $495.00. You can find them as lower prices but those are not real market prices as these sweeps are usually factory units sold directly to someone in a promotional sense.

By "not real market price", I mean that these lower priced units are usually factory to dealer units. They bypass wholesale distribution. These units do not wholesale for that low price. They do sell direct from factory at a price to make $329 worth being in business, barely.

I sell more at a price cheaper in my area than other guys as they are not buying from the factory. I have a slight advantage over them in terms of retail pricing. If you can get one at $329 and you knows it's brand new and the dealer is reputable (whatever that means) go for it. You got a good deal. We sell them for $425 but that is for delivery and set up. The online sales we make for delivery are about $350.00 plus shipping but again, we are not paying the real market wholesale for our units.

Juzjon, they make a black bottom version. What did you not like about it? What do you mean, all of its tracks? It has two wheels. Glad you like the Hayward. Most do initially, it's the 18 month part that hurts.

what do you mean about the 18 month part? Our PB wants us to use one, but we were shopping around first.

By 18 months, I mean this is an 18 month sweep on average. Builders love them as they work great initially. when the builder is out, you then begin adding parts. Way too many, and you will continue to do so. I've said it over and over. Go to a pool store and look at the parts wall or workbench. You will see all Navigators and no Pool Cleaners.

how do you set the suction?

Also, I run it with the solar cover on without any problems.

The best thing about the unit is it works over a large range of suction levels and flow rates. So if I have solar on and flow rate decreases, the unit will still climb the pool walls. I can also run it at a still lower flow rate (have an adjustment valve) and have it just clean the bottom but at a slower rate which is what I do most of the time.

It picks up the occasional leaf (blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while too) but does virtually nothing for dirt/sediment on the bottom. And, it constantly ran into a wall and then would stay there. Not an obstruction, just in the middle of a straight wall. I let it run for about 5 hours a couple of times and still hate it.

So if you'd like one, I can make you a deal...

T

Have been using for the last 20+ years and only negatives have been getting service for the Dolphin. Aquabot service is expensive but you're able to get it.

Good luck and I'm not affiliated with either.