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Our PB wants to sell us an upgrade to a pool without a main drain.
It consists of a Hayward ecostar variable speed pump, low returns for better circulation, and 2 skimmers. This will be for an inground pool approximately 33 x 17. Is this a good option? Can you really achieve enough circulation without a main drain? Any advice would be appreciated. |
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| jk7228, I wouldn't consider this an upgrade except for the pump. Lowering the returns does not achieve better circulation, would in fact diminish the movement of surface water that actually moves the debris towards the skimmer(s). This size pool doesn't need two skimmers. Pools without main drains are becoming more popular since most cleaners can provide the ability to pick up debris at the bottom of the pool and circulate water at the same time. I still like to use main drains, especially with VS pumps because it allows a larger volume of water for the high speed end of these pumps. What kind of cleaner are you getting? Pressure or suction? And how much is this upgrade? |
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| It is an extra $2600.00 The cleaner they are offering is the Kreepy Krauly Ledgend II |
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- Posted by muddy_water (My Page) on Sun, Jun 3, 12 at 16:43
| Sounds like a upgrade with less work on the builder I wish I was smart enough to come up with this type of upgrade... But why is he mixing equipment Legend is Pentair and then the Hayward pump? Go total Pentair or Hayward and get a 3 year warranty on all your equipment.IMO I would have a main drain. One good example is on aboveground that most of the time do not have a main drain if you want to clear one up faster then you set them up to manual vacuum and turn the vac head up and create a main drain and the will clear up twice as fast. For low wall returns I have had some say that help heat the water faster with a heater but I have never really seen it work so I really can't say one way or another and those pools had main drains to pull from the bottom. Rusty |
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| Thanks to everyone for all the info. I don't think I'm going to go with this PB. Another one I met with quoted me all Pentair products with a choice of a 2 speed Whisperflo or a Challenger. I felt like the no main drain wasn't really an "upgrade" anyway. |
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| I got some more information about the upgrade involving the main drain. He said they use water volume and not pressure to create a better circulation in the pool. The upgrade also includes an automatic water leveler to ensure the water never drops below the skimmers. |
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- Posted by muddy_water (My Page) on Fri, Jun 8, 12 at 5:46
| I really don't understand the volume comment. What size pipes is he useing? The auto fill in my experance is trouble down the road. All it really is a toilet valve in a box beside your pool that will stick and cover up any leaks in your pool. You will not know you have a leak until your water bill is sky high.... |
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| I heard a lecture about this at a pool show once, I wasn't convinced. Part of the idea was to eliminate main drains due to entrapment issues but really, to sell a no main drain pool as an upgrade and charge extra for it is kind of crazy IMO. |
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| I have a water leveler. I could never get it to regulate the level correctly, so shut it off. So I would skip on that. No main drain? I couldn't live without my main drain, its where I push dirt to when I'm brushing the pool so it gets sucked up into the filter. I would think it would be a mistake to not have a main drain. I would hate to drag out the crawler everytime for this. |
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