Kinetico 2060 Ssoft, pgh line fitter and post carbon filter- $3135
Watercare 10x54 total water care conditioner with min plus pre filtration and post filtration $3600 plus need an outlet

1. How many people in your household?
2. Do you have plans to change the number in the household?
3. Frequent guests?
4. Do you have any high water use fixtures, such as jet tubs or mult-head showers?

Some concerns:

1. 2 ppm iron does not tell us the form of the iron. Is it ferric (particulate) or ferrous (water is clear when drawn but gains color when allowed to sit)? With the correct resin, although it's not ideal, a softener can remove ferrous iron, but not ferric.

2. sulfur has the potential to foul your softener resin

3. It does not appear either company has really addressed the pH of your water.

Kinetico: This is a fine company that provides quality, reliable equipment. I find their prices to be on the high side, but many people have had years of trouble-free service so they are worth a look. I would ask about pH adjustment, however. Also, I would ask about the reason for the carbon filter they have suggested. What is a pgh line fitter?

Watercare: I have some real concerns about them.

1. Using chlorine to oxidize iron followed by filtration is fine. However, your softener should not be your filter. You will end up with poor filtration or poor soften, or both.

2. The system adds water to the salt to form the brine 4 hours prior to regen time. This is completely backward and only a company with little knowledge would use this method. Water should be added to the salt right after regen so it has plenty of time to dissolve. It takes 48 hours to obtain a strong brine solution. 4 hours absolutely will not do it unless you use warm water and constant agitation. Bad design. Period.

3. Propriety controls and equipment means you are married to the company(Kinetico has this same issue). I'm not a fan of proprietary items for water softening. Softening is not new tech and standard equipment is less expensive to purchase and work on and parts are readily available when needed.

4. What type of pre and post filtration? What will these filters remove from your water?

5. They state the optimum pH adjustment occurs at 3 gpm or lower flow rate AT MAXIMUM SALT SETTINGs. So, if you use more waster than that, your pH will not be where you want it. Additionally, your softener will have to be set for poor salt efficiency in order to achieve good pH adjustment.

6. Their spec sheet has zero information about pH adjustment and iron removal, aside from a note saying that neither will work if your conditions arene't just right.

7. I would dismiss Watercare entirely.

Water-Care 10" x 54" Total Care Water Conditioner with MinPlus (30%
Discount)
WT-PBH4... Pre-Filtration
4.5" x 20" Bag Filter Housing and Bracket
50 Micron Bag Filter
WT-BB10
Post-Filtration
4.5" x 10" Big Blue Housing
2501 Cartridge Filter
WT
Installation & Labor for Water Treatment Equipment and Pressure Tank
Installed at Same Time

for kinetico 2060 s soft pgh line fitter may be the brackets he installs with it?? I dont know
post carbon filter package and pex fittings...

If they are specifying pre-filtration, either 1) They are concerned about particulates in your well water, or 2) This is just what they always do.

For two people, the size they have specified would be fine if it were a standard softener. However, for four people, it will be undersized. Here is what I would do:

1. Acid neutralizer. This will be a tank containing calcite that dissolves to neutralize the acid. A 2.0 cubic ft tank will allow 10 gpm flow rate, reasonable for your household. Maximum flow rate would be 20 gpm for unusual instances of high water use (short term only). This would add some additional hardness to you water, up to 5 gpg. Calcite would need to be added approximately annually.

2. Iron filter, such as Pyrolox, birm, Terminox, MangOX to removed iron, manganese, sulfates and particulates. This is catalytic iron removal and the system pretty much takes care of itself with periodic backwashes.

3. Softener. 2.5 cubic ft of standard size, 8% crosslinked resin

ALTERNATELY, if three separate pieces of equipment is a problem:

1. Acid neutralizer, same as above

2. Sediment filter (big blue or similar cartridge filter is fine)

3. Softener. 2.5 cubic ft of mine mesh resin. This will be better for iron removal.

As a general rule, I don't like softeners for iron removal, but they can work if we size them correctly. Realize that resin life will be shortened and there is more potential for problems. However, sometimes there are space and money constraints and we do what we have to do. My main concern with the alternate option is that it does not address the sulfates.

Kinetico suggests a carbon filter. I can only assume their thinking is that the carbon will remove the sulfates. This would be true if they were specifying hydrogen peroxide injection followed by catalytic carbon, but it does not appear to be the case. If this is what they are suggesting, the peroxide/catalytic carbon should be installed upstream from the softener.