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| Recently, while doing my "bi-decade" home inspection of all parts big and small of the house, I ran across our 17yr old hot water tank (A.O. Smith 40/G NG). There seemed to be some weird funkiness to the tank and it got me to think that I should replace it. After doing some research, I found that maybe I should have replaced that thing about 7yrs ago (which partially explains my cold showers ... the other part belongs to my wife ... anyway).
So, more research. I didn't find any tank water heaters that qualified for the 30% Energy Star initiative (best I found was .70EF). What I did find, which surprised me, were plenty of tankless that did qualify for the credit. More research...and narrowed it down to a brand called Navien and model NR-210A. So, calling my local plumber(s), I wanted job quotes for: 1) install / replace tank water heater with one of the .70EF models ... and ... 2) install / replace to Tankless Navien. Here's where it gets ugly. 1) house was built in 1993, fist owner. Since it was built in 1993, the codes were different. For me to install a new tank HWH would require the company to install a square cement wall around the unit and deepen the ditch (it's in a "half" crawl space with 6' height). The existing unit is 48" and newer units are taller. BLUF: to replace with a .7EF HWH, 12yr warranty, do the install with construction will cost me about 3k and no 30% Fed Credit.
2) for 3.3k, I get a new Navien NR-210A (bells/whistles), .98EF and installation of circulation T's at the long runs on external circulation, 15/5yrs warranty ... and the 30% Fed Credit. To me it was no brainer. More efficiency, less cost overall after credit. My math:
Tankless: 3300.00
Delta: 889.00 savings going tankless, + reduced gas costs. |
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| "Standard tank: 3000.00 " That is an outrageously expensive water heater. Did they gold plat the inside of the tank for corrosion protection? |
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- Posted by greenerremods (My Page) on Sat, Nov 20, 10 at 21:56
| If it didn't include delivery and 2 years of free gas, tell'm to take a hike. |
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- Posted by impliedconsent (My Page) on Mon, Nov 22, 10 at 18:25
| Most of the cost was not the tank, but the construction they would have to do to get it to code. I'm not clear on exactly what the spec's of the code are; however, it involved creating a 4" minimum width, 4sided-concrete wall. They said because of the height of the 6' crawl space, they would have to dig a ditch deeper (certain spec) to comply with vent angles, etc... I'm not a plumber, but 3 separate companies wouldn't touch a normal tank install without doing the modifications. Tankless: mount, hook-up, done. (I have a 1" gas main into the house, made it easier). |
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