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How to soften and filter well water?

FixerUpper18
9 years ago

We just moved to a house that has its own private well. The previous owners were renting a water softening system from Culligan that seems crazy expensive to us. Our last house was on public water so we just bought a simple water softener and added salt as needed. I know well water is harder but do we need a fancy system? Can we just buy another water softener?

Should we filter the water or just buy bottled water? I have young kids so I'm very cautious about making sure their drinking water is safe. Should we bother with filtering the well water to drink? Or just buy bottled water?

Comments (9)

  • User
    9 years ago

    1st, you need to get your water tested by a certified lab. Test for: TDS, pH, hardness, iron, sulfur compounds, nitrates, bacteria and anything else your local labs typically test for in well waters. They will have a panel of "well water safety tests" that they do to ensure your water is safe to drink.

    Once you have the analysis, then you will know if you need any treatment such as particulate filtration, carbon filtration, softening, etc. You may find that none of it is necessary - get the numbers and then we can go from there.

  • ElizabethCampos
    9 years ago

    Water filters are any systems that can filter and remove contaminants from the water. There include small RO drinking water system and large house water filter which treat water through the entire home.

    Here is a link that might be useful: hiblow 80

  • FixerUpper18
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thank you for the replies! Unfortunately our water report is in a box somewhere (we just moved) but I know the water was really hard like 35+ if I'm remembering correctly. The last owners were renting a Culligan water softening system and it still left hard water marks on the glass in the showers and the washing machine. The filter Culligan recommend for about $4,500 my husband found at Amazon for $900. Anyone have any familiarity with it?
    http://www.amazon.com/Combination-softener-Fleck-5600SXT-digital/dp/B004LUJ6L4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ARSP0ZRXYARXKXGYB48

    Right now we are thinking of installing that, and these:
    Whole house filter system
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000E78XH6/ref=pd_aw_sims_1?pi=SY115&simLd=1
    Reverse Osmosis
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003XELTTG/ref=s9_simh_gw_d0_g60_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-1&pf_rd_r=19BYWGQ76A8AKPP5ENE9&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1824974342&pf_rd_i=mobile

    Is that a good combination? Are there better options? Again looking to filter the well water to remove heavy iron, the well sediment and have the water safe for drinking. Obviously soften the water too. Any feedback would be much appreciated, thank you!

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    9 years ago

    your well.. and associated information... should be on file in the county health department.. if i am not mistaken ...

    they would also know of general water info in your county ...

    talk also with a well guy ... they are a font of information .. i think that is a pun ...

    and you said: I know well water is harder

    is that a generalization... or do you have specific info in that regard??? ... presumptions can lead you down the wrong path ...

    to my reading ..... you are throwing around a bunch of cliches .... and reading between the lines [which mind you.. is very dangerous for me] .... i am worried you are using 'terms of art' .. but might not fully understand the ramifications of what you are trying to communicate with us ...

    if i were you.. i would make appointments with every water supply company... for miles around ... and interrogate each one ... by the time you are done.. you will have a lot better idea of what its all about ...

    this is really something.. that the interweb could lead you far astray.. from what reality is.. in your locale ...

    good luck

    ken

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    9 years ago

    your well.. and associated information... should be on file in the county health department.. if i am not mistaken ...

    they would also know of general water info in your county ...

    talk also with a well guy ... they are a font of information .. i think that is a pun ...

    and you said: I know well water is harder

    is that a generalization... or do you have specific info in that regard??? ... presumptions can lead you down the wrong path ...

    to my reading ..... you are throwing around a bunch of cliches .... and reading between the lines [which mind you.. is very dangerous for me] .... i am worried you are using 'terms of art' .. but might not fully understand the ramifications of what you are trying to communicate with us ...

    if i were you.. i would make appointments with every water supply company... for miles around ... and interrogate each one ... by the time you are done.. you will have a lot better idea of what its all about ...

    this is really something.. that the interweb could lead you far astray.. from what reality is.. in your locale ...

    good luck

    ken

  • User
    9 years ago

    If you don't have actual analysis numbers to share with me, all I can do is guess. The softener you linked to may or may not be the right thing for your situation. I have no way of knowing yet. If your vague recollection of hardness numbers is correct, the one you linked is probably too small.

    The whole house filter you linked is simply a sediment filter. Do you have a sediment problem? If so, I would NOT install the filter you linked. Rather, install one that uses 4" diameter fitlers, preferably two in parallel.

    The RO may be necessary to filter out contaminants, but more likely not. You may want one purely for water taste reasons, in which case you would run softened water to the RO.

    Again, all of this absolutely, positively must start with water analysis.

  • stoveguyy
    9 years ago

    Depends on your location. Well water will have varying degrees of hardness. You cannot make a blanket statement that it is always hard. Yes it is not treated like city water. Our city softens the water to 6 grains of hardness. It's up to homeowners to install softener if we choose. A well can have high levels of iron or not. Some homeowners choose to use softener as iron filter. Though it's not designed to do that.

  • FixerUpper18
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Tuesday, October 21, 2014
    Collection Date/Time:

    10/14/2014

    5:00

    Sample Collector:


    Submittal Date/Time:
    10/14/2014
    17:01
    Sample ID

    Co

    liform Designation:
    Sample Description: Well
    Analyte
    Method
    Unit
    Result
    Qual
    PQL
    MCL
    Date Analyzed

    Aggressivity Index
    Calculation

    12.2

    10/16/2014

    Alkalinity, Total (as CaCO3)
    SM2320B
    mg/L
    323

    2

    10/16/2014

    Arsenic, Total
    EPA200.8
    õg/L
    9

    1
    10
    10/16/2014

    Bicarbonate (as HCO3-)
    SM2320B
    mg/L
    394

    10

    10/16/2014

    Boron
    EPA200.7
    mg/L
    0.11

    0.05

    10/15/2014

    Cadmium, Total
    EPA200.8
    õg/L
    Not Detected

    0.5
    5 10/16/2014

    Calcium
    EPA200.7
    mg/L
    183

    0.5

    10/15/2014

    Chloride
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    199

    1
    250
    10/15/2014

    Copper
    EPA200.7
    õg/L
    42

    10

    10/15/2014

    Fluoride
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    0.3

    0.1
    2.0
    10/15/2014

    Hardness (as CaCO3)
    SM2340B/Calc
    mg/L
    622

    10

    10/16/2014

    Iron
    EPA200.7
    õg/L
    1940

    10
    300
    10/15/2014

    Langlier Index, Corrosion potential 15
    SM2330B

    0.15

    10/17/2014

    Langlier Index, Corrosion potential 60
    SM2330B
    õg/L
    0.73

    1

    10/17/2014

    Lead, Total
    EPA200.8
    õg/L
    12

    5
    15
    10/16/2014

    Magnesium
    EPA200.7
    mg/L
    40

    0.5

    10/15/2014

    Manganese, Total
    EPA200.7
    õg/L
    76

    10
    50
    10/15/2014

    Nitrate as NO3
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    1

    1
    45
    10/15/2014

    Nitrate as NO3-N
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    0.2

    0.1
    10
    10/15/2014

    Nitrate+Nitrite as N
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    0.4

    0.1

    10/15/2014

    Nitrite as NO2-N
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    0.3

    0.1
    1.0
    10/15/2014

    o-Phosphate-P
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    Not Detected

    0.1

    10/15/2014

    pH (Laboratory)
    SM4500-H+B
    pH (H)
    7.0

    10/14/2014

    Potassium
    EPA200.7
    mg/L
    11

    0.5

    10/15/2014

    QC Anion Sum x 100
    Calculation
    % 108%

    10/17/2014

    QC Anion-Cation Balance
    Calculation
    % -1

    10/17/2014

    QC Cation Sum x 100
    Calculation
    % 105%

    10/17/2014

    QC Ratio TDS/SEC
    Calculation

    0.66

    10/17/2014

    SAR (Sodium Adsorption Ratio)
    Suarez, 1981

    2.5

    10/17/2014

    SAR, Adjusted
    Suarez, 1981

    3.5

    10/17/2014

    Silica as SiO2, Total
    EPA200.7
    mg/L
    44

    0.5

    10/15/2014

    Sodium
    EPA200.7
    mg/L
    142

    0.5

    10/15/2014

    Specific Conductance (E.C)
    SM2510B
    õmhos/cm
    1799

    1
    900
    10/17/2014

    Sulfate
    EPA300.0
    mg/L
    350

    1
    250
    10/15/2014

    Total Diss. Solids
    SM2540C
    mg/L
    1184

    10
    500
    10/15/2014

    Zinc
    EPA200.7
    õg/L
    65

    10

    10/15/2014

    Sample Comments:

  • FixerUpper18
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    The above is a copy of our new lab test. Also we had plumbing work to fix the pipes coming into the house (apparently previous owners actually had it coming in through a garden house instead of pipes!) and we had a whole house filter put on the line (simple off the shelf GE one from Home Depot. While the water was off for about 8 hours and when the plumber turned back on the filter was full of mud. After running the water again no more mud but clearly we also have to filter the sediment. Ideally we would like to drink the water unless it's too expensive to make it safe for drinking. At minimum we want to make the water safe for the appliances and add a softener for showering. Any recommendations on what we should buy? Thank you so much!