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Posted by talley_sue_nyc (My Page) on Wed, Jan 13, 10 at 19:55
| We may need to replace our 8" rough-in 1920s Crane toilet w/ a sidemount flushometer. The bathroom is really narrow, and most of the toilets available would have us standing in front of the toilet with our knees against the bowl and our noses against the wall.
In my search for a non-intrusive toilet, I spotted the triangle / corner ones.
Is there any drawback to them that I haven't thought of? I have to think about where we'd end up standing vis a vis the sink cabinet, of course.
But in general? |
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RE: corner toilet / triangle toilet -- any reason not to get?
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| IMHO, a good solution for a tight space, as long as the drain placement works. |
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| We'll have to completely reinvent the drain placement, since an 8-inch rough-in is not going to work. But I measured out from the corner, and that also puts the person standing there w/ his hip against the sink cabinet. I sure wish they still made the toilet I've got. I see a serious business opportunity--toilets that have the seat itself up against the wall, with the tank off to the side, or something. The "powder-room toilet." Our toilet sticks out into the room 21" inches. The Rialto, which has the shortest impact on the market (supposedly) is 25.5" or something. |
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| What's the matter with the toilet you've got? Unless it's cracked in a critical area (i.e. it leaks) it can probably have parts replaced. |
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| 1) the glaze is crackled, and stuff grows on the lines underwater. 2) there's a leak somewhere in that wall, and the plumber's current pet theory is that it's occurring where the flushometer pipe meets the vertical pipe, and I have visions of the co-op board telling us we must get rid of the flushometer setup in order to avoid future leaks. It hasn't happened yet, and maybe it won't, but I was just checking out my options in case I need them. If they make us get rid of the flushometer setup, we'll have to rip out the entire bathroom, bcs of that 8" rough-in. |
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| You still have a few options before changing the location of your 8" rough in. You'll need a vent. (do you know a lot or a little about venting in DWV plumbing? ) If you have venting you can consider a rear outlet toilet. Its discharge would go down that existing pipe if vented from above. Search and learn up on the numerous shapes and types. There are floor mount and wall mount. The latter comes in several types. One is with the tank between the studs in the wall ("Caroma carrier", "Geberit carrier") ; don't worry about the tank being behind drywall: you get access to the tank whenver you need it by removing the flush button panel. Millions like it in the world. Others do like century-old toilets with the tank up high (out of the way). Others have the tank mounted onto the wall, very visible and bulky. In any case, your new toilet's discharge pipe would get routed to receive venting and then go down into the existing waste arm. No need to rip up the floor to rebuild that pipe. Hope this helps. |
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| COrner placements actually take up more space in a room than standard placement. By replacing the toilet you will be required to achieve the 15" of space from center of the waste line to any adjacent obstructions. Your current toilet is grandfathered in, but any replacements must meet current code. |
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| See missel.de for another carrier, designed for 45 degree angle installation. Click on the UK flag to get English. the 15 inches either side are for elbow room. Before you reject any idea, check with your inspector (if you have one) as to how he calculates this 30" width, when the toilet seat is angled at a 135 degree / 45 degree. Don't reject any idea by thinking that the tank needs 15" on either side on the wall. My saying this is a way of opening your eyes to possibilities not envisioned by the preceding post above. In stronger words, it can be false to say that corner placements take up more space... Go see missel.de and you'll have floor plans. |
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| davidro1, thanks for this! Those look neat. I'm in NYC, so sometimes the European technology or products aren't so hard to find. I'll have to keep them in mind. It turns out we do NOT need to replace our toilet; it's not our flushometer. So, whew; this becomes an academic conversation. I would think that the 15" clearance would still allow the corner toilet to work in *any* bathroom; because I would imagine that all installations would be to put them in the corner of a room; I'd think the possible obstructions would be the same everywhere (walls, sinks). I'm *pretty* sure the toilet stack is vented, way up on the roof, 4 floors above us. I also saw the Philippe Starck toilets with the Geberit carrier you referenced. That was really useful, too. (I always wonder why US toilet companies don't make a shorter rough-in, and market it as "the powder-room toilet"--I can't be the only person who wishes their toilet didn't waste so much space *behind* it!!) |
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| I love my corner toliet. It's an ELJER brand. We've been using it for two years or so. Our bathroom is approximately 5 x5...almost a closet size...the toliet the people had in prior was placed way off the wall - it was a mess. We remodeled - I don't know how to post pictures on here or I would. The corner toliet made a HUGE difference in the amount of space.....it feels so much bigger now. |
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