This one was taken in Wheeler, Oregon a few years ago. People were pulling over to take this picture. One kid took a picture of it reflected on the side of his freshly washed car. I should have done that too, but I had been on the road for a few days and my car needed washing. I thought it was a good idea though. Mike

Since these are a new hybrid cultivar, do you think seeds will reproduce true to parent? Runners would be better, I think.

Kathy,I think you posted a thread last year comparing Tahitian Sunset to Tuscan Sun? I kept going back to it again and again. I ended up buying Tuscan Sun. I just love it! Even during this heat wave it looks just great.. Kathy in Napa

And, fwiw, this is a good pic to discuss editing on. The image above was edited some, and needs way more than I could get to approach the real sunset. While a photographer can take a mundane "scene" and jazz it up with editing, the editing to the one above is really about compensating for not capturing the real scene. Mostly as a matter of contrast, I suppose, I didn't get the real image of the great brilliant "silver lining of the thunderhead and the halloween orange of the lower strata. Also add in the dark purple of the passing storm. I can discuss this freely because I didn't have time to even try to take great photo. Getting all those things, in my experience, is hard enough even if you have the time to try. So, editing, when it imparts something that isn't there, can be a little , what,inaccurate? often editing helps but still doesn't make up for the difference in the image and the scene. Photographic skill, ha, and equipment. Personally, I have no reservations in trying to edit to make up for any lack of skill or luck in getting across what I was seeing/taking. I can understand if some purists see that differently. And, here is another one from last night where the bright part (thunderhead) contrast gets blown out, but the darker parts of the pic down lower have better detail. In the big picture, pardon the pun, its hard to get pure white and halloween orange in the same picture. The eye can see it, but getting the camera to capture that great of contrast, for me at least, is hard.