Has this rose ever been placed in the shade? Is this the true color? Are the leaves the right color or are they darker? Does this rose smell fragrant? I am leaning toward a bourbon, but if there is no fragrance, perhaps not. I would like to see a whole plant picture if you have one. Is there a paucity of thorns? If this is quite fragrant and can bloom in partial shade, it might be Zephrine Drouhin. This post was edited by patricia43 on Tue, Jul 22, 14 at 1:05

I wish I knew how to post a picture, but I can not seem to figure it out. Please help anyone!! Thank You, Kathi

The less vs fewer also bothers me, but I never say anything about it because it is so prevalent. I told someone once that "less" is the comparative for "little", and if "little" does not fit in the sentence, then "less" should not be used. It's easier to remember that "less" can only be used with singular nouns while "fewer" must be used with plural nouns, or at least that's the way it was taught to me in the third grade. My grandmother and mother were both English teachers, and my grandmother was extremely intolerant of grammatical errors. English was her second language, and she only spoke German until she was seven. I think that in 50 years, no one will use what was considered proper grammar in the 20th Century and earlier.

Responses can be edited days after they are posted, but the original post has a very short time (perhaps an hour) that it can be edited, but I don't know the rules for deleting the entire thread. I deleted a post that I started once, but it was less than an hour after I had posted it, and no one had responded yet. I deleted it because I had found the answer I wanted on my own, but people had already read what I had written and were trying to find an answer for me. Therefore I started a new thread and apologized for deleting the original thread, and I also posted what the answer was that I was looking for, in case someone else had the same problem. This had to do with thermostats.