Also, you might consider Chamblee's Roses. They are shipped in gallon pots and are more mature than roses of many own-root vendors. Chamblee's selection is not as extensive as some, but they do have nice roses. Another vendor with larger own-root plants is High Country Roses, though their selection is aimed at colder climates. Still, you might find some you like there; I have. Amity Heritage Roses used to sell the largest own-root bands around, just gorgeous plants, but I don't think they are currently active. It didn't look like it to me when I last visited their website. Probably there are others, but I'm only mentioning ones I have purchased from myself. My personal favorite vendor is Vintage, and I buy the majority of my roses there, but you do have to mature them in a gallon pot yourself. Rosefolly

Since this forum seems so moridbund, I would suggest that you repost this on the Arizona forum, as Phoenix is also a Sunset zone 13. I've gardened in similar climates while working in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and almost anything is possible to grow if you have the water to give them, and mulch is going to be very important as well. A lot of warm season crops can be sown for winter use if you are in a warm enough microclimate that does not freeze, even tomatoes, but it might help if you use agricultural row cover at night to keep them warmer during the 6 weeks or so of the coldest nights. I do remember Dahlias as being a winter plant in Saudi Arabia; summer was just too darn hot for them to keep blooming. Roses also did quite well in Riyadh with lots of water, mostly planted to get some afternoon dappled shade or on the north sides of walls/buildings.

Well, we're heading to Dallas for a couple of days, maybe 3 this time. Hopefully, this is the last trip we have to make for a while. ;-) I'll check in when I can. I'm enjoying the pics and conversation. I can't wait to have a big, beautiful garden like some of you have! It's got my mouth watering.... And, yes, I have catalogs starting to come in, too. I'm taking them with me on my trip to thumb through them and most likely start new additions to my want list for next year! Blessings, Angela Here is a link that might be useful: NEW All Player Compiled Want List Page (updated 10-27-09)

Cawfeegirl!!! You selected and installed your backsplash!!! Love it!! You have a beautiful kitchen....one I could enjoy a cup of cawfee in....or a glass of wine.;)