Mike, "I don't give a kumquat whether we are warming or cooling..." I am offended by your implication that there is anything negative about kumquats. They are great. I grew up with a tree that bore way more fruit than I could ever eat, and the extras served as excellent ammunition for throwing at my friends--especially the green ones b/c they are much harder. :) It is pretty funny with this current cold weather how much people on both sides of the debate cite it as evidence in their direction. As if one piece of datum out of context can lead to any kind of significant conclusion. Whenever winter rolls around gardenweb seems to slow down, which I find annoying considering I live NorCal where we don't have much of a winter. So I appreciate discussion topics that I find interesting regardless of how "on topic" they are for the various forums. I do find it interesting all the people that chime in about how this isn't a worthwhile discussion. In a free society, isn't any any all discussion worthwhile? You are free to discuss and free not to. Cousin floyd, do you not think that colony collapse disorder exists, or are you just saying you don't think it is a new thing? I didn't realize that was even a controversial topic. ryan

/David Too funny that you don't like the taste of papaya fruit and grew one anyway. I guess that's the mark of a true lover of plants. Try eating papaya with some fresh lime juice squirted on top - it's key! Thanks for sharing your tips for growing papaya and mango from seed. I really like all the brown tones in the surigaoensis, especially when there are still closed buds nearby. What a cluster! I keep chopping my padangensis, so I'm probably never going to see flowers, but this is one of my favorite Hoya blooms - like tiny water lilies. /Mike I like to use the papaya seeds in salad dressings, although I'm not above simply crunching them beneath my teeth either. A bit bitter that way, not exactly what I'd eat a whole bowlful of, but it's hard not to interact with such pretty seeds. I guess I don't have to worry about worms! My birthday was Monday (May 30 - Memorial Day) and today is my sister's birthday, but I just love the birthday wishes. Thanks everyone! I always feel like people should get to celebrate their birthdays all month. Pug, I'm so impressed that you noticed when my birthday was! :O /dance

Caroleoh, I've only seen half of one 5-0 episode, where one cop had a bomb locked around his neck. All the MNF ya know...plus, I work every Mon. from 12-9, getting home ~ 9:15pm usually. Yeah, I was diggin' the scenery for sure! Goldy & all... Just heard on the radio here that all the people in that mess on I-94 just west of Fargo have now all been removed from the scene and are safe! Some had spent 8 HOURS at the scene!! Visibility was SO bad that snowmobiles had to ride shotgun to vehicles holding the people, to guide them into West-Fargo...Yikes! Can't wait for "Round 2" Friday aft.!! Lucky me too...I have to work @ 8am!! Gonna get up ~6:15 and snowblow the driveway to make a path for myself...Uffda. My DW has Friday off.....arrrrrggghh! Not that anyone will get to the store........ Faron

Thank rmkitchen, I love the site too. When i first came across it, the prices seemed so reasonable that I was a little skeptical. But I have been quite happy with the quality, and shipping was not bad. And what I really like is that they have stuff I didn't see anywhere else. Much of it is from a company called Chehoma. I looked high and low for someone local who carries Chehoma but got nowhere. When I had to call Deco et cie with a question, I even got to use some of my high school French. I did see the wire cage fixture, the whacky one with the birds, at ABC Carpet in NYC, for more than twice what I paid. I have that one in my 8yr old DD's room, and she is in love with it. I bought and can vouch for: Suspension NIckel - mudroom, Suspenion poesie - one over each sink in my girls' bath Suspension desir - guest room Lustre voliere demi grande - DD2 bedroom Lustre brindelle 4 lumieres - over my tub, or so i thought Applique crenalieme - DS bedroom Applique josephine - guest room Applique projecteur nickel - DS bathroom I inquired in advance about which ones would work in the US. I think I only rewired the last one. It was maybe $30 to rewire. Here are some of the other sources I have used and been happy with: Il Fanale. Italian products imported by Country Gear of Southampton, NY. SImple lines but a bit unusual. I bought my kitchen and breakfast room pendants there and also fixtures for a bathroom. Prices quite reasonable. http://www.countrygearltd.com/Results.ihtml?c=94&increment=6&step=2&startnum=1&maxvalue=6&m=26 Skinflint UK - If you like the industrial look, they have really cool things. I bought some old ship bulkhead lights, french darkroom lights, real cargo lights, etc. Again, pretty good prices, and he will rewire them for the US. Do note though, that some of these items are very heavy and you may need to reinforce your ceiling to hang them. You may also find that the amount of light they give once rewired is insufficient. The prices are good value for what you are buying, IMHO, but not as inexpensive as Deco et Cie or Il fanale, above. http://www.skinflintdesign.co.uk/store/ceiling_and_wall_lights/ The last one is the budget buster, but oooh they have nice stuff. I bought two of the Chisholm Hall for our entry hall. I also am having them copy a fixture for me. http://www.urbanelectricco.com/#/Collection/By_Category/Ceiling/ PS CALI WENDY - Deco et cie has a sconce like those lights you liked that sold Here is a link that might be useful: cali wendy - sconce for you