Yeah, I have an Orbit timer setup with three different valves, each valve runs three sprinklers (I wish I had put in an underground sprinkler system, but oh well). I haven't measured how many inches yet, but I run each valve for 15 minutes (45 min total) each day, until it starts to runoff. Now I'm down to 15 minutes each valve every 3 days since it's only in the 90's now. It does take a lot of water, but it's well worth it and water is dirt cheap here...imagine that in the desert! (I only pay about $25/month for about 2500 cubic ft.). Soil is rock hard clay, no sand, you literally have to use a sharpened pick axe to dig it up. What I did to prepare was pick axe the whole dirt back yard (about 8" down), then mixed in a truck load of compost (about 30% compost). There were some areas where the grass grew great until the heat kicked in, so I dug those up last week and reseeded (I didn't dig down deep enough so the roots stopped growing). I water at 5am, and humidity is only like 10% usually, so yeah, no fungal disease worries here! In the peak of summer it gets down to the 80's only, now it gets down to 50's. We freeze overnight in Jan/Feb as well. I was amazed to see Tall Fescue growing here too (since it's cool season grass), but a lot of lawns here are fescue and that's pretty much all the stores carry. I use the generic Contractor's Mix from Lowes (which is one of the cheaper bags, but I've had great success with it), I'll have to check what cultivars are in the bag and report back.

The only person I've actually seen from garden web is Dax , from his posts with huge trees he posts here. He usually stands or squats down beside the trees. Ken has posted a pic or 2 of his son with red hair, so Ken is likely Caucasian, fair skinned. And I think there is a older guy with white beard and has a mature or near mature conifer forest, and comes here sometimes to the tree forum, but is a conifer guy. He posted his pic and his trees have huge roots that grow over boulders, down into the soil . That's all I remember. The rest, the imagination guesses.

"I am going to post this on a few other tomato discussion groups, so if you visit the other places, I hope you don't think I am bragging. I just thought it might give some people some ideas. " In the other discussion groups you are talking about, I posted a system which has only two poles which are 10' tall and supporting 40-foot long from pole to pole of plants. Its also a system which is not very visible. The system survived serveral heavy rain storms last year. The thread is titled "MY support system" dcarch

Thanks, but i have some really good stuff from the vet. It is a pink salve that is thick and you pat it on and then wrap it in Saran wrap so it doesn't absorb into the outer wrap, and wrap it with vetwrap. We haven't even listed this place yet. It is such a godawful mess. Have had several people come look at it anyway. A lot of people like it but haven't got the money and we can't finance it for them because we need the money out of it to buy another place. If Jody would come home and help me, I might be able to get it cleaned up better. Two areas still have a lot of hurricane debris. We are on a big curve in the bayou and the water came straight across our place, carrying everything you can imagine. The first two months we worked on fixing a fence down one side of the property, which gave the horses a place so they could come home from down the road. Then it has rained so much, and that was a small pasture, so turned them out and it rained some more, and then it rained more night before last and it is a horrible muddy mess. The "regular" horses are out together. The two fillies were in with the donkeys, but got out, so went to the round pen...and now with all the mud, they are in the barn. Emery is in the barn, and Snoop is in about an acre sized lot that is around the barn. Snoop isn't standing in mud and he has a stall he can run in out of the weather. But the mud around the barn is awful. I hurt my back day before yesterday from trying to pull my foot (boot) out of the mud. It's not like you can quickly walk anywhere around this place. We need some dirt work done. We had the guy with the bulldozer here for three or four days but he had another job he had to get to. He said he isn't busy in January, so Jody said he would have him out then to do some more work. However, it is much too muddy to do anything. So.....I am more or less marking time....waiting for the weather to get better. I am so cold natured, and I have a very hard time walking in the mud....and carrying everything I have to carry to the barn, because I don't have a good place to store my feed and hay....which is why I go to the feed store every day. January is always our worst month...so just waiting for it to pass.