Ah yes, the Urban Heat Island effect. Indeed it does help at this time of year.

"Times may have changed since I was young, but men haven't" Sorry, but that simply isn't true. No, I am not male, but I three brothers and many male friends, and almost all of them feel the "man is supposed to make the moves" rule is unfair and puts too much pressure on them, and they are thrilled when a woman takes the initiative to call them. Of course, I mean a woman they're interested in, they're not anymore thrilled than I am to hear from someone they really don't want to see again. If he is interested, he'll probably like it that you called. If he's not interested, he's not gonna call you anyway, so you have nothing to lose by trying. I believe it's probably different in Blueheron and Daisy's age groups (you're both retired, right?), and certainly I have no experience with men of that age so I am not in a position to question them on that point, but in my generation (30's) and younger, men as well as women certainly have changed in their expectations. Sure, there are young people of both genders who still want the "traditional" gender roles, but for the most part that is no longer the case.

Spend years building fish habitat around my dock. got all kinds of fish living there. Don,t need a boat for catching fish, water is clear most of the time.

I have often wondered what ken’s background is, because he knows about all things plant (hosta, perennials, trees,.....) He was married at one point, I assume, because he talks about “the kids and having a house.” I have always imagined he is a retired professor of horticulture, botany, and dendrology (study of trees). But he has never replied when I asked him ===>> maybe he will answer you......I hope so. :-) debra