Looks pretty. JoanMN

The once-blooming European old roses did well for me in my Olympia, Washington garden. I had Albas, Gallicas, Centifolias, and Mosses--I ran out of room before I got to the Damasks and can't comment on them. I loved these roses, still do, and the longer I grew them the more of them I got. I didn't mind the once flowering, since I also had repeat-blooming roses, but there is a risk with once-bloomers that extremely heavy rains at the wrong time will knock out the year's flowering. This happened to me once in nine years. But I think it's well worth taking a chance. I didn't spray. I agree with the suggestion of 'Spray Cecile Brunner' and also like Lucretia's roses. I suspect the Hybrid Musks would do extremely well for you, as they like the cooler and moister parts of the garden here and flower beautifully in those conditions. Examples are 'Cornelia', 'Buff Beauty', 'Vanity', 'Francesca', 'Kathleen'. These make good-sized shrubs or contained climbers and are fragrant and repeat-flowering. I also had a rampant once-blooming species musk rambler in Olympia, but I don't know its name as it arrived mislabeled. It may have been Rosa brunonii. Other gardeners will have to advise you about large-flowered repeat-blooming fragrant old roses on contained shrubs, as I'm not knowledgeable about them in your growing conditions. Good luck! Melissa

No, I don't know anything about the white one. Never even heard of it before. But I did use to grow the regular one. It was a perfect bush. Wish all roses could be that healthy and nicely shaped. Yes, her blooms lasted a nano-second, but they looked nice and had large petals. I had to remove her long ago because she quickly outgrew the limited space I had for her ... way back then I didn't know you couldn't trust the sizes stated by the vendors when you live in the south. I still grow a smaller sized descendant of Carefree Beauty ... 'Thomas Affleck', hybridized by the Michael Shoup organization at The Antique Rose Emporium. Carefree Beauty was a good momma, imparting much of her toughness to her offspring. Randy

Thank you for the nice remarks. @ Inga - I love Kentucky Derby! To this day it is still my favorite red rose. Irregardless of the temperature outside it retains a true cherry red and has the most delicious fruity smell. My Mr. Lincoln and Chrysler Imperial tend to take on a more strawberry red from the Florida heat. @ lesmc - I'm torn on whether that's really Tiffany or not. I'm so used to Tiffany being pink with yellow undertones but so far this new Tiffany I picked up has produced more peaches-and-cream-like blooms. I'm not complaining though I love the petal structure of these blooms!