Yes it is the red cord handle that attracts them to the garage entrance so painting a different color would help. I have had hummers fly in but they always just fly back out. My garage attic is closed off and my ceiling is not high so I think that cuts them off, anyway never had a problem with hummers getting trapped in the garage.

Talley: I'm sorry you are experiencing this. When we were looking for a DW to replace our broken Whirlpool last winter, I found that American made DWs made to accept a panel were to deep (front to back) to remain flush with the cabinet run once the wooden panel was installed. I was advised to buy a Meile. The interior is noticably smaller, the front to back depth is shorter by about 2" (as I recall). Since I wanted to biggest interior I could find (family of nine), I purchased a SS KitchenAid and just gave up on the integrated look. We did not have the time to wait for the panel, this was during the holidays and we just needed a DW, not another project. That being said, if I had more time, I would have done an integrated DW and if necessary, I would have removed the sheet rock from behind the DW to create a larger space to accommodate the door. Perhaps you can take measurements and figure out if you can remove drywall and studs (you would need to create horizontal sills in the walls if you remove a stud, or maybe your could simply turn the stud 180 degrees within the cavity). Or maybe taking out the drywall would be enough. I don't think it would affect any of the electrical or plumbing, but might make the sound level rise. Tally, I hope this doesn't become a large project for you. What does the cabinet maker who made to door panel think? Can you return the DW if need be or is that a final sale? PS Still using the MS PTouch regularly and so thankful for it!

Ken, they aren't moths, they are skippers. ==>> i kinda figured i was making improper overly broad suggestions.. but i just wanted you guys to talk about them.. rather than just throwing out names.. figuring maybe i might actually learn something... the jury is still out on that..lol.. ken

Good comments, all. I believe that we ought to: a. ensure the stone is not so thick so that snow-melt doesn't work b. ensure that stone not too bumpy so that it's a trip hazard, so use "real" flagstone c. change to irregular flagstone so that any color mixing of 2 types of stones not so noticeable I'm thinking we could use the buff colored one (San Miguel) stone in irregular shapes and then mix in some darker stone so it roughly matches the house siding stone. We'll have to put in for a DRB change but there's no choice. So the pic below sort of mocks it up.