@pjb448 yep! Prices aren't too bad with shipping at XLB: https://shop.xlbpalmtrees.com/products/kumaon-palm-wagnerius?variant=16508827909. Note these are wagnerianus trees. It says /Takil but he doesn't actually sell any Takil trees, he's just mistaken by the old Waggie/Takil confusion. Pictures are of Fortunei plants which is also weird, but as a customer I can verify they are indeed Wagnerianus. An alternative is Montreal Palms (http://montrealplants.com/?s=wagnerianus&post_type=product). The trees aren't as big for the price and larger trees cost much more than at XLB. Shipping is extra and he doesn't give you an exact figure - you don't know until your card is charged because he charges you close to cost for shipping and doesn't know what the cost is until he brings it to post - it's based on weight. From my experience buying smaller trees makes more sense from Montreal palms, but bigger trees are best bought at XLB, provided they have the species and size you're looking for, economically speaking. I know that XLB will charge maximum $250 shipping to the US, so you can order as many trees as you want if you're buying enough to exceed $250 in shipping costs. The downside is that the minimum shipping cost is $50, so buying 3-gallon trees on their own is usually a waste of money. I don't know if there is a maximum per order at Montreal palms as I haven't bought in bulk from there yet, but I do plan to this coming Spring. I want some of his 10' needle palms!

Filtering water removes chlorine pretty much. The cleanest water is distilling. This news is not new, health nuts have been warning all who will listen to avoid tap water as not all is known of what's in it. We get a report of what's in our city water and there already is a list of long worded chemicals, usually in low parts per million. But, when fish and frogs are being born with extra limbs and male and female organs, etc. if I were of child bearing age, I would think twice about what's in my water. But, there are certainly a lot of things we cannot avoid and better not to live in fear, just do the best you can. How many people die or are maimed in auto accidents per year and yet no one really worries about that.

I know your only asking for opinions from those who DON'T have in-the-door ice but couldn't resist giving the opposing opinion. We had never had a dispenser before the remodel and the fridge we wanted only came with that option. We reluctantly chose it and found that having the easy access to ice has been an incredible quality-of-life improvement. Every member of our family drinks a lot more water because of it. We have very cold water coming out of our tap during the winter but the coldness isn't enough. My family wants the crunch (and it's the "crushed ice" crunch that works, not the whole ice cubes.) Our fridge water isn't chilled and comes out tediously slow so we still get the water out of the tap (plus I like getting it when the faucet is in "spray" mode---the aerated water tastes better to me.) We have excellent spring water that leaves no deposits so no worry about filters. Now that I have the ice dispenser I don't mind the look. I guess it's an inner beauty type of thing where the function overides any aesthetic problems. Also the background color of the dispenser is the same color as the fridge and doesn't stand out as much as some. We never had an ice maker before the reno but I know my family well enough to know that they wouldn't drink as much water if they didn't have the ice dispenser staring them in the face (I kept unmolded in a tub in our old freezer and nobody ever thought to use them + they weren't crushed.) We use ice so often now that we don't have to worry about it sitting in the freezer too long and getting the stale-freezer-taste. We've had it for 3 1/2 years and it's still a draw. Guests also know how to easily help themselves without feeling awkward about about opening the freezer door if I forget to welcome them to do it. Good luck. We're happy we ended up with the dispenser by default.

Not having a water dispenser isn't too tough to find but I searched a lot to find a frig without the ice maker. Very few don't have that wart. Though I really liked the 4 door Samsung with the option to make 3 compartments freezers, (and especially liked it being marked down from $2500 to $700) but it annoyed me that for the most part 1 full section was lost to the ice-maker and water dispenser. Yes, I know they don't have a tank in there for water, but I haven't seen any using copper pipes. Every one I've seen uses plastic tubing and a plastic tube to connect the water to the unit. Sooz, it's been a long time now, but basically take the thing apart as much as you can and wash that stuff away. He used his "miracle cleaner" that had this odor of... salad? Vinegar takes that crust off the stainless and plastic quickly and effectively. And I guess I should clarify, I DID drink water from a garden hose, but never the stuff that was sitting in the hose! I ran it a while to get the hosewater out of there and would have to do that with a refrigerator unit. Even my cousin, who was so proud of his new frig with icemaker quit using the ice for drinks. He agreed with me that bad water makes bad ice, just like bad water makes bad coffee. The only thing he used that ice for was to dump in the cooler when he headed to the lake. Annie, the only way I know to clean out the frig dispensers is to disconnect the water supply line, and these days most often they're those dang vampire couplers, then flush the system with bleach. And I highly doubt anyone ever has, or will. Triciae, too bad about the flood, but it reminded me of when a friend's place flooded from a broken washer hose. All the totes floating around in the basement and her little foo-foo dog on top of one of them. I wanted to call her Gilligan after that! :)