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toddler sweating and congestion

Posted by evyonnec (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 10, 06 at 11:13

MY GRANDSON IS 26 MONTHS OLD AND HAS BEEN ON ANTIBIOTICS OFF AND ON SINCE HE WAS 3 MONTHS OLD. HE HAD RSV AT THAT TIME. WE RECENTLY FOUND OUT WITH A HEAD XRAY THAT HE HAS HAD A SEVERE SINUS INFECTION, PROBABLY FOR OVER A YEAR. HIS PEDIATRICIAN FINALLY REFERRED HIM TO ANOTHER PHYSICIAN. THE SPECIALIST PUT HIM ON ANTIBIOTICS FOR 6 WEEKS, RE-XRAYED HIS SINUS CAVITY, SAID IT STILL WAS NOT CLEAR, AND PUT HIM ON THE MEDS FOR 6 MORE WEEKS. AS USUAL, HE WAS FINE FOR ABOUT 2 WEEKS AFTER GOING OFF HIS ANTIBIOTIC, BUT NOW THE RUNNY NOSE (GREEN IN COLOR) AND THE CONGESTION AND COUGH, AND SWEATING IS BACK. I HAVE ALSO NOTICED THAT WHEN HE GETS THIS CONGESTION, HIS PERSONALITY CHANGES. HE IS JUST NOT HIMSELF AND SEEMS MORE SELFISH AND REBELLIOUS. NORMALLY, HE IS VERY SWEET AND MINDS VERY WELL. IT IS NOT THE "TERRIBLE TWOS" BECAUSE WHEN HE IS NOT CONGESTED HE IS FINE. HE ALSO SWEATS ALL THE TIME AND HIS FACE WILL GET VERY FLUSHED. AND HIS SWEAT BEADS UP ON HIS FACE AND HIS HAIR WILL BE WET, BUT THE HOUSE WILL BE ALMOST COLD TO EVERYONE ELSE. HE WAS TESTED 2 MONTHS AGO FOR CYSTIC FIBROSIS AND THAT CAME OUT NORMAL. HIS LUNG XRAYS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CLEAR. I FEEL LIKE HE HAS TROUBLE BREATHING, WHICH LOWERS HIS O2 LEVEL, WHICH IN TURN, CONTRIBUTES TO HIS BODY HAVING TO WORK HARDER CAUSING THE SWEATING AND PERSONALITY CHANGE (DUE TO LOW O2 SATS). I WONDER IF HAVING HIS TONSILS AND ADENOIDS OUT WOULD HELP THIS CONDITION. HE DOES TAKE SINGULAIR DAILY AND IT HELPS SOME, BUT STILL HAS THE CONSTANT COUGH AND RUNNY NOSE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE HEARD OF THIS BEFORE OR IF YOU HAVE ANY DIRECTION TO POINT US IN TO HELP OUR PRECIOUS LITTLE BOY. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!


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Have you talked to his physician about his sweating. Also, I am wondering if he should see an allergest. Sounds like he may have Asthma. Does he get ear infections with his illness? I would also suggest an Ear,Nose and Throat Specialist. I would think something can be done to fight this battle,so he does not have to depend on antibiotics all the time. Keep us posted!! Lots of prayers!!


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I agree with gracie. I would mention the sweating to a doctor and see a specialist about possible asthma. Maybe even tubes in his ears would help? What are his doctors recommending? His personality changes may also be due to lack of adequate sleep. If he's not breathing and sleeping right at night he may not be getting the deep zzzz's he needs.

In the mean time, I would try to make his room as allergy-clean as can be. Change sheets a couple times a week with 'newly wash' linens not something pulled from the closet. If possible, get rid of all carpeting and curtains in his sleeping room or at least wash or vaccum often. Limit or get rid of most of the stuff animals, especially in the bed. Use special allergy filters. If he does have a dust mites allergy they'll tell you how to cover the matress, etc. Also, keep him away from chemical smells. Don't clean the bathroom when he's in there, or disinfect his changing table right before bed, etc.

Are there any pets in the house? He could be allergic to them. Be sure to keep all pets (even hamsters, etc) out of his bedroom until you find out for sure. Also, I'm sure you know this, but don't let anyone smoke around him.

Good luck. I hope they can find out what's specifically wrong with him so they can help him. Keep us updated.


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THANKS FOR SUGGESTIONS. I FAILED TO MENTION THAT HE HAS BEEN TO A ENT SPECIALIST AND HAD TUBES PUT IN HIS EARS (JANUARY) AND 2 WEEKS LATER HAD AN EAR INFECTION AND A COUPLE SINCE THEN. HE HAS ALSO BEEN TO PULMONOLOGIST. THEY DID A SWEAT TEST AND TESTED HIM FOR CYSTIC FIBROSIS (CF), BUT THAT CAME BACK NORMAL. THEY SAY HE HAS ALLERGIES, BUT IS TOO YOUNG TO BE TESTED TO DETEREMINE WHAT IS CAUSING IT. THEY HAVE PRETTY MUCH RULED OUT ASTHMA (HIS LUNG XRAYS ARE ALWAYS CLEAR), ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE GIVEN HIM A BREATHING MACHINE WITH AN INHALOR TO USE "AS NEEDED". THE ANTIBIOTICS ALWAYS WORK AS LONG AS HE NEVER GOES OFF THEM! WE DON'T WANT HIM TO BUILD UP A TOLERANCE TO THEM BECAUSE THEN, IF HE REALLY HAD SOMETHING SEVERE, NOTHING WOULD HELP HIM. HE GOES BACK TO THE DR. TODAY, SO WE MADE A LONG LIST AND MY DAUGHTER SAYS SHE IS GOING TO TRY TO INSIST THAT THE DR. CHECK HIS ADENOIDS AND TONSILS. I HAVE HEARD THAT IF THE ADENOIDS ARE ENLARGED, THEY PRESS ON SINUS CAVITY NOT ALLOWING DRAINAGE WHICH BUILDS UP AND CAUSES INFECTIONS. ANY OTHER IDEAS WILL BE WELCOME AND ALL PRAYERS APPRECIATED. HE IS SUCH A GOOD BABY AND SWEET LITTLE BOY AND IT JUST MAKES US MISERABLE TO WATCH HIM SUFFER SO MUCH.


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Forget the "don't want him to build up a tolerance because if he gets something serious.."...THIS is serious...kids can die of a sinus infection, and most authorities agree that a 2 year old's sinuses are not well enough developed to harbor an infection for very long.
Something is going on....and if he needs contstan maintainance doses of antibiotics to keep him healthy, why then that's what needs to be done.
My, now 11 year old twin grand children went for 2 years on a constant maintenance dose of antibiotics.
I would insist on a new Dr....and if he is perscribed antibiotics for an extended period....do that.
You don't want him to have pericardial disease, mastoiditis or any of the other awful things that can come from a chronic infection. I have a friend who had a chronic sinus infection for several years and the drainage down the back of his throad eroded his throat and caused him to lose one of his vocal chords to cancer.
Don't ignore this!
Linda C


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Did they tell you when they could do allergy testing? I thought it was age 2. With my son, they originally did a blood allergy test...just took some blood --it wasn't the usual skin test. I don't think it's as accurate and it only checks for a few of the major allergies, but it would be worth it to get if they don't want to do the skin test. The main reason they suspected allergies in my son was because he just kept getting cold after ear infection after cold, etc... It sounds like that is what may be happening with your GS.

It does seem like most of the kids I know with allergies or respiratory problems do have a problem with dust mites. I highly advise checking into it and taking appropriate measures. Even if he doesn't have a dust mites allergy limiting his exposure to them should help with almost any sinus problem.

If they are telling you he has allergies but won't do testing you should try to keep him clear of all main allergens. Just do a search on allergies or allergens to find out what they are and how to limit his exposure. It's really sad if you have to wait a year or two and then fine out he's allergic to half the stuff in his room, or his cat that has been sleeping with him.

Good luck.


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Lindac - Believe me, we are not taking this lightly and have NEVER not given him the antibiotics prescribed. He too has been on them for almost 2 years now. Just feel like someone should be able to figure out what is wrong, which is why I posted to this forum. We do live in Texas, which has lots of pollen, mesquite, dust, etc, which we try to control all that we can, but some things we can't like the air and atmosphere. Thanks for all your input and advice. He went back to his prim. care physician today and they ran a bunch of blood tests for thyroid and diabetes and he has another apt. with his ENT physician thursday to check his adenoids. Will keep you all updated on what we find out!


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My son had a very similar set of sinus/ear/sweating problems, and they stopped totally within 3-5 days. I know this is going to sound crazy, but it just might work for your grandson, and has virtually no risk of adverse effects.

For a 2-week trial period, eliminate all milk and milk products from his diet. No milk, no cheese, no macaroni & cheese, pizza, pasta with alfredo sauce, ice cream, yogurt, etc. Read the packages for every packaged or convenience food you buy and if it says 'casein' or 'lactose', don't serve it during those two weeks. This is especially worth trying if your child seems 'addicted' to milk, and you find his favorites, or possibly, the only foods he eats contain milk.

If he's got a sensitivity to milk, what you should see by eliminating it is a dramatic improvement in his sinus conditions -- certainly within two weeks. You may also see a several-day burst of really nasty behavior as his body goes through a sort of 'withdrawal' from milk. While unpleasant, this is actually a very strong sign that you're on the right track. On the other hand, his behavior might also improve dramatically, since he won't be feeling so bad. If, in two weeks, you don't see a dramatic change for the better, then you can pretty much rule out a milk sensitivity.

So how to survive the 2 weeks without milk? If your grandson likes orange juice, orange juice with calcium and vitamin D will give him all of the most important stuff he gets from milk. There are also Soy, Rice and Almond milk products - even chocolate-flavored - that taste great. They don't taste quite like milk, but if you don't pretend that it IS milk, he probably won't mind that it's NOT milk. (Mine happily drinks just water.) Frozen fruit bars to replace ice cream. Cheese substitutes aren't the best, so plan no-cheese meals. The most important ingredient for success on a limited diet is simply to plan your meals. Plan a couple of his favorites adapted to go without any milk, and just go for it.

Truly, if this is the problem - and the symptoms do fit - you'll see a huge improvement very quickly.


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THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN SEEING A LOT ON THAT AS WELL, SO IT WILL BE WORTH A TRY. THE DR. SAID HIS ADENOIDS ARE ENLARGED AND HE IS GOING TO REMOVE THEM. HE ALSO SAID HE DOES HAVE A BLOCKED SINUS CAVITY THAT HE IS ALSO GOING TO FIX WHILE HE IS IN SURGERY. THEY PLAN TO DO THIS ON SEPT. 25th, so all prayers will be appreciated. THANKS FOR THE INPUT!


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I am from Texas also and have an 18 month old son with the same issues. I have finally found a Dr that will address the issues with his nose. My son has been on 4 antibiotics in the last 2 months. Once off the antibiotic, the sinus infection returns. We are off to the Dr tomorrow to do a Sweat test and go to his ENT to discuss another set of tubes and getting his adenoids out. Same as you Evy - my son has been fighting this since he was 3 months old. If you have any info to share that has worked please do so... I am glad to hear that my son is not the only one fighting this battle. Have the Drs taken a test of the mucus in your grandson's nose to see what type of bug he has? The Dr that we have seen recently took a sample of the mucus in my son's nose to make sure the antibiotics that he has been given is the correct one to kill the bug in his nose. And guess what - after determining that info - his nose has gotten a little better along with the other meds he is taking... I could go on and on about this... Let me know how things are going.


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My son (now 11)had the same problems as a child. They started when he was about 3-6 months old. We did the Allergist. The skin test. The Shots. We saw the ENT as well. By the time he was 3; He had his 1st sinus surgery. They irrigated his sinuses. At first he seemed to be doing fine. But then a few months later he started getting really sick again. This time they did a scan of his head (children's medical in Dallas) and found he had deceased tissue in his sinus cavities. So They did another surgery and removed the tissue. He also had a deviated septum that was repaired. They removed his adenoids and tonsils also. By this time he was almost 4. I saw great improvement after his surgery. He did get sick from time to time but not for several months like he use to. My son also suffered from ear infections. Every time they checked his ears they were flat lined. My son does having some hearing problems. He has low frequency hearing loss. I have to tell his teachers that if they talk to him; they have to be looking at him and speak up. (Since I talk loud, he never has trouble hearing me! LOL )I knew when he was 6 months he was not responding to sound like he should. Everyone keep telling me he was just a late bloomer. I did not give up till I found a doctor to listen to me. He took some speech therapy when he was about 3 1/2. He did not start talking till he was about 4. He is 11 now and doing better. He is in Special Education because of his Speech Delay. But for the most part; He hardly every gets sick now. He has not had to use his inhaler in over a year. (He was diagnosed with asthma at an early age.) He plays sports. He has a black belt in Karate. He is an honor student and doing so much better. My advice to you is to do what you think is best for your child. If the Doctors seem to be blowing you off. ( I got a lot of that.) Find someone who will listen. Do not give up! It Will get better! I too live in Texas so If you would like too talk you can email me. I have been there, and there is light at the end of the tunnel! :)
God Bless!
Alicia


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Folks - PLEASE try the milk thing. Obviously, I have no financial interest in this, and I'm only suggesting it because it had such a dramatic effect on my son and several others whose parents I know. It's easy to try, and has NO risk of harm. Clearly, the same can't be said of surgery.

For what it's worth, I'm NOT an alternative-medicine proponant. My son ALSO had two ear-tube surgeries and had his hugely-swollen adenoids removed. Those surgeries did help somewhat, but didn't end the problem. Removing milk from his diet DID end the problem.

I'm wondering now if removing the milk may have been ALL he needed, and am hoping our experience can prevent a possibly unnecessary surgery for another little boy.


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Sweeby, I think that is very sound advice. I hope they took your suggestion, or someone did. Good luck :) Christy


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This message is to evyonnec. I am wondering what you ever found out with your grandson. My daugter (26 months) has the EXACT story as your grandson. We had the CF test done this week and it came back negative. They tell us that her sinus are so bad they can't even do a surgery right now. She has 100% blockage in one and 95% in the rest. I would love to know if what you guys found out with him.
Thanks Michelle


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Hello all. We have a precious little girl, almost two. I was amzaed to see that so many people are sharing much of the same instances that we have experienced with your little girl.
quick run down, with results.
-born 8 weeks premie. VERY hard vaginal birth, in NICU for three weeks.
-developed and did fine unitl 6mths. First series of sinus infections recurring after finishing her round of antibiotics.
-tubes in her ears, as a result of her tugging at her ears and alligator rolls while in the bed. Result seemed help with ear related symptoms, no impact on sinus infections.
-recurring sinus infections continue. No matter what if prescribed in anitbiotics, the infection comes back within a week.
-allergy tests...nothing big came back.
-Adnoids removed, was told that they sometime harbor bacteria. no effect on the sinus infections.
-continued infections, blood allergy tests came back normal
-**forgot to mention that she began life on formula, then soy milk, now on dairy.**
-sinus "surgery"...they irrigated her front sinus cavities & did a culture, with not culture results abnormal. The left cavity was somwhat full, the right had nothing.
-tried doing nothing during her last bout with the sinus infections, to see how she would do. for three weeks she did well, somewhat runny nose, but always clear fluid. however, yesterday it seemed to worsen.
-**also forgot to mention she was put into the hospital at around 6mths with RSV like syptoms, although she never tested + for it.
-**was tested for CF, came back negative
-**we were told that you could not test a child at her age for asthma (sp?)
Now, we are frustrated, confused, and ready to beat the crap out of our ENT, Allergist, and Pediatrition, none of whom seem to discuss this issue TOGETHER! instead they use us to update each other on what they think, despite our protests.
-just had a double lumens test, where they shove a small tube up her nose and down her throat for 24hrs to measure her Ph....to see if she has reflux washing bacteria into her sinus cavities....result in-freakin'-conclusive....
One word.....DAMN!
just a fyi for you guys


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I agree with Sweeby. Milk allergy was our problem. You have to read all the ingredients to make sure your kid is not getting milk, casein, or whey. We even saw a marked improvement in his behavior.

Our pediatrician told me NOT to use soy products during the 4 week testing period to see if milk is the culprit as, he explained, half his patients that are allergic to cow milk are also allergic to soy milk. He also said that every time that he accidentally got some milk, to back up and start the 4 weeks off milk all over again. He said not to expect to see results for 4 weeks, but I saw improvement before that. And I could always tell if someone gave him milk. Time and again, other moms would explain that they did not give him ice cream they gave him sherbet. Arghhhh, sherbet has milk in it, not cream!!!!!

Son is now 31, and he is still sensitive to milk. He can have some cheese or yogurt or cream sauce, but he has to be sure not to over indulge over the span of a few days or he will not feel well.


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please let you doctor know if anything with your child is out of the norm. I have a newly one year old and since birth he sweats excessivly when theres no need. the bed soaks and he goes through clotheslike a wet diaper.It also isnt all the time but its enough to be concerned. I asked everyone (doctors, other moms) i looked on the web. until he turned one i found out he has Neuroblastoma a tumor near his adrenal gland. i found out one he one year old check up because the doctors felt a lump that they thought was a swollwn kidney. (the same doctors that wasnt to concerned about his sweating) They ordered a ultrra sound and xray and they was sure it was a tumor. He then go a ct-scan and confirmed a tumor which they had to sadate him for. Please Please dont take sweating, a racy heart, unexplained non weight gain lightly, even if your baby seems normal. If your doctors dont think its a concern push then to satisfy for mind. get a xray a ultra sound if they wont go to a clinic, get help to pay for it. tumors are cancerous and deadly. please.

Here is a link that might be useful: Myo clinic hospital information the best hospital


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