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| I am having my 8 yr old builder-grade honey oak kitchen cabinets painted white. I am leaning toward BM Satin Impervo because I'd like a high quality paint with a low sheen that would still be washable. My painter says that oil-based is the most durable and will give the smoothest finish. I am really concerned about VOCs, though. I have 2 kids that I don't want breathing in the off-gasses.
Does anyone have advice regarding how well the Satin Impervo in latex will hold up on kitchen cabinets? Should I really go with the oil-based paint? Are there better paints for cabinets I could use and still get a satin finish? Thanks for any advice! |
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| Don't forget that oil based paints have other drawbacks besides being smelly and hazardous to breathe. The paint film itself is also very brittle and will crack faster than latex. Oil based paints will also yellow over time. Mildew and mold prefer to grow on oil based paints as well. So, even if we can prove that oil based paints are the most durable, we still have these other issues. By the way, we can't prove that oil based paints are more durable....painters are divided pretty squarely on this topic. |
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- Posted by mybrowneyedgirls (My Page) on Mon, Nov 9, 09 at 21:34
| Thanks for the input, paintguy. So do you think I'd be okay going with the BM Satin Impervo (latex)? I just want as smooth and nice a finish as I can possibly get. We are trying to dress up these builder grade oak cabinets with crown and light rail mouldings, as well as adding some glass inserts, and of course, paint. We don't have the money to replace, but we are still spending quite a bit on these improvements to the existing cabs, and I just don't want the final paint job to say "low quality" or "budget" if you know what I mean. It is so true, you can talk to one painter and he'll say today's latex rivals oil paint, and another will tell you nothing compares to the finish of oil. So I'm still confused... |
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| I'd be just as concerned about painting oak cabinets and which paint will work the best on those specifically. I want to paint my oakies, too, but the more I read about the prep involved and quality of paint so you don't have the oak grain showing through, the more gun-shy I am. I like low VOC, too. Lots of differing opinions on oil vs. water soluble for cabinets. Funcolors recommended finepaintsofeurope.com (I think that is the url), and that is super high quality stuff. They have water soluble/low VOC paint that is supposedly suitable for cabinets, and also primer putty that you can use to fill the oak grain and sand to a "glass" smooth finish. I haven't used it myself, just read about it in other posts around the web during my research and visited the site today. I'm sure the regular posters and pros will have better experience based advice than I do, but I thought I'd share what I am going through right now about oak cabinets. Please come back after your paint job and post pix. |
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| You've maybe read my "babblings" about FPE. Jeez it's some sweet stuff! I've only been lucky enough to do some sample-boards, using some of their products...but, WOW. Their ECO series paint, in Satin or Gloss(Brilliant) would be a stunner on your cabs. Grain-filling is always optional; but, if done, can be a show-piece! Suggestion: Faron |
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| Yep, Faron has been the FPE go-to-person around here lately. I trust his opinions and ideas a bunch. We're lucky he shares well-balanced opinions and expertise with us! I also like ACE cabinet paint or Cabinet Coat on oak. You can still see the grain pattern, but some people find that textural aspect attractive -- and it can be -- just depends on your preference. |
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- Posted by decorativewalls (My Page) on Tue, Nov 10, 09 at 9:39
| Yes, BM Satin waterborne impervo would be just fine as well as SW Pro classic. I prefer the impervo . |
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| I think that getting a smooth finish on cabinets depends a lot on person applying it. If you have a painter that is accustomed to using oil paints, he may not be that good with the acrylics. What happens is these old timers may get stuck in their ways and never make that adjustment to modern day paints so they may not be that good at applying it. I would spray them if possible...that is really the best way to acheive that oil based look. |
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- Posted by decorativewalls (My Page) on Tue, Nov 10, 09 at 9:43
| definitely agree with paintguy. Makes perfectly good sense and know that oil finishes as he mentioned are brittle and do wear more IMO than your better acrylics. |
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- Posted by mybrowneyedgirls (My Page) on Tue, Nov 10, 09 at 10:07
| Thank you guys for all of your advice! I think I am going to go with the BM Satin Impervo in latex. Faron, I have read a lot about the Fine Paints of Europe products, and I know theirs is a superior product. However, it is so expensive, and my painter includes the cost of paint (anything available locally) in his price, so I think I'll have to go with BM (or maybe Cabinet Coat??) for $$ reasons. So, unless someone convinces me that Cabinet Coat is a better product for cabinets, I think I'll just go with the BM. I don't really know anything about CC....any thoughts?? |
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| I wouldn't focus "totally" on just the $$$... Think of the "Total $ value" added to the home, etc. If another $100 (or whatever $ amount...) in paint adds "even more" to the worth....just sayin'.... The additional $$/sq. ft. soon become meaningless. However... ...gettin' off my soapbox now...;-) Faron |
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- Posted by gratefulhousewife (My Page) on Thu, Dec 3, 09 at 13:18
| I've been reading for months on painting oak cabinets and this forum has been so nice to have! I am ready to start but can't decide between cabinet coat and satin impervo waterborne. Is the Cabinet Coat better? Or will they both be equal? I have an in home daycare, 3 young kids of my own as well so I would really like something that will stand up to the wear the best. HELP PLEASE! |
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- Posted by christophern (My Page) on Sun, Dec 6, 09 at 7:39
| Either will work |
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- Posted by camarogirl (My Page) on Fri, Dec 11, 09 at 1:15
| A few years ago I wanted to switch from oil base to water base on all my woodwork and I sampled BM Impervo, SW Classic, Dunn Edwards, and Cabinet Coat. CC was highly rated on this site and I liked it's smooth finish the best. I also like the hard finish, my door frames do get bunped. Home Depot now carries it online. Diana |
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| I used the Insl-x Cabinet Coat on my ugly dark oak kitchen cabinets. I'm impressed with this finish. I had originally planned to use oil, for it gives a hard, durable finish. The downside of using oil, aside from long drying times, is that it yellows over time. However, after much research on the web, I decided to try the Cabinet Coat. Glad I did. The whole job came out great and it's so nice to be in a nice, bright kitchen for a change. In fact, I liked this paint so much that I intend to use it on all the rest of the woodwork in my home. |
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- Posted by painter_2009 (My Page) on Thu, Jan 28, 10 at 8:29
| latex is junk in a kitchen , you,ll regret it as time passes |
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