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What makes floor paint special?

Posted by karinl (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 18, 09 at 14:01

I'm painting the attic floor- it's beyond redemption as natural wood.

I bought latex floor paint, and it only comes in flat/eggshell (depending what brand I buy). The flat finish doesn't look that good, so I clearly need glossy paint. But glossy floor paint only comes in oil-based (read: messy clean-up). Because I am DIY in a room that is full of furniture, I only paint as much as I can clear at one time, that is, small areas. So an oil-based paint is unattractive to me because I'm doing a lot of cleaning for the amount of painting I get done; I'd far rather use a latex paint. But if I buy glossy latex, that won't be a "floor" paint, whatever that means.

So, two questions:

Would a glossy latex "wall" type paint be a problem on a floor? It's not really a high use area, certainly no hard shoes, and we can be careful when moving furniture or chairs.

If I have to go to the oil paint, having started with the latex paint (over a latex primer, no less), is it a problem to put it on top of the latex?

Thanks in advance,

KarinL


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

Paint whatever you want, then cover it with a clear polyurethane floor varnish.


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

Isn't the polyurathane varnish oil based? If so, I've heard never to put oil over latex?


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

I think you need to look elsewhere for your products. There are plenty of acrylic floor paints on the market that come in varying sheens. My favorite is Muralo. I even recently bought some Glidden floor paint in a satin for $20 per gallon from Home Depot recently that is holding up very well.


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

Hmm, guess I'll go shopping again, but this has been the case at two paint stores. One irritant is that I bought a gallon of my eggshell floor paint... there's no additive to make a paint glossier, is there?

I think if I'm going to have to go to a third coat to get the gloss, I'll just get some glossy paint in the same colour and use that, even if it is oil based. I have painted oil over latex before and it's held up.

KarinL


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

Karin, I didn't know you wanted high gloss....I thought you were just looking for something with some sheen. I am okay with satin for everything; semi-gloss is about as shiny as I like to go on any substrate.


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

Made a stop today at Cloverdale paint and found some good people there to talk to. First, they told me that they too make their latex floor paint only in a flat finish and their oil floor paint only in glossy. That's three stores now that I've found do it this way.

I asked about using a glossy latex wall paint on the floor and they told me that the wall coating cures to a softer coating than a floor paint needs to do, so discouraged me from doing that.

They also suggested a glossy clear coat, but I think if I'm going to have to recoat anyway, I might as well add another coat of colour. And they weren't even sure that the latex clear coat comes in glossy. So I'll just buy the same colour in an oil paint.

So I guess I will have to come to terms with cleaning my brushes - or finding a way to store them from shift to shift - does the freezer trick work for oil paints, or is that only for latex? It is clear that the only way I'll get the finish glossy is with oil paint for floors.

And yes, it does have to be glossy. I actually found this out when I did the other attic room, but it had been so long and I was buying the paint in a hurry this time on the last day of my P&L paint store's retirement sale; I forgot I'd made this mistake before and neglected to ask what finish the latex floor paint had. The floor is tongue and groove, and with the flat finish (actually mine is eggshell), you can't see the boards at all; the floor might as well be plywood. When you put glossy paint on, you can see the boards and a bit of the wood grain - just like you can see the profile on mouldings better when they are painted glossy. And the smoothness of the glossy floor is just nicer to be on and to move things around on.

The first time I did this wrong, the glossy oil paint did go on OK over the latex, though I can't say I've subjected to floor to much of a test yet. I was curious too whether it's "recommended" or just possible!

Thanks for the help with this,

KarinL


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

I'm going to second paintguy's recommendation of Muralo products. Our utility room had a bare concrete floor when we moved in 15 yrs ago. I painted it back then with Muralo Quick-Tred. I've only had to to a refresher coat once, about 7 or 8 yrs ago. I have 2 80lb dogs (big claws) that sleep in that room, DH's steel toed boots clomp across it, dehumidifier rolls on it, washer and dryer slid on it, it takes a beating! I have even cleaned it several times with an old electric floor scrubber (like janitors use in schools) when the mutts came in with muddy paws and got past me before I could wipe them off. (They're like a herd of elephants busting through the door when they're on a mission.) That paint is unreal, no flaking, peeling, nothing. The Quick-Tred is water based but probably won't give the sheen you want. I've used the oil-based, it does have the sheen. But I just noticed at their site some products that must be newer (at least they weren't available when I painted). The Ultra XT High Gloss might be worth a look, & suit all your needs? (My paint store that I got it from, an independent dealer, was able to custom mix colors if desired.)

As far as storing brushes used in oil-based products between work time on a project, I just put mineral spirits in a coffee can, swish the brush in it, and wipe it clean with a rag, rest it on it's side. Haven't tried the freezer trick on oil-based (only latex). Something tells me it might get funky and hard as a rock with oil products, but I could be wrong. ;)


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

Thank you, Moonshadow. I see on the website that Muralo does appear to make a water-based glossy floor paint, so I'll see if I can get that In Canada. I'm actually not optimistic as three paint people have not steered me to it, but we'll see!

As for storing brushes, thanks again - I thought it was for latex I'd seen that freezer tip. I think with oil based it will be about setting up a system, which I rarely have the foresight to do! The upside is that currently I'm painting with the so-called eco brushes where you buy one plastic handle with replaceable bristles. They don't exactly give the bristle portions away, but it isn't a killer if you dispose of one every few uses.

KarinL


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RE: What makes floor paint special?

Just to update: I can't seem to get Muralo products in Canada, but I did eventually find a glossy latex floor paint: from Behr, at Home Depot. So your first steer was correct, Paint Guy. Amazing and irritating that the specialists don't carry such a thing but the big box does!!

KarinL


 
 

 

 


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