No need to prime and Promar 200 is a far cry from BM( Regal?). If they "manually" matched it, they did not get it right.

I have been told by my local paint store that there will be some color difference between brands of paint, despite "color matching", whether manually or by computer. Every manufacturer has a different base formulation. They will be close, but will never be exact.

If you specified Benjamin Moore paint I would be livid about the painters using Sherwin Williams. I know there are a lot of Sherwin Williams fans out there, but I hate their paint. It was the worse stuff ever put on by our builder in our previous home. The Everclean they had at the time was "neverclean". Their highest end semi gloss roped.

I've had great experience with Benjamin Moore paints and never once has their high end semi gloss roped. I understand roping can be caused by certain weather conditions, but that was not the case in our instance.

In my opinion, Benjamin Moore has a softer essence in their colors.

Many people do not prime before repainting, but you will get a nicer paint job if that step is taken at this point. The only time I don't is when I'm using the same brand paint over the existing paint, and using the same color. Our experience when going over the Sherwin Williams paint is that we had to use a primer first.

UNFORTUNATELY...
If your contract doesn't specify a specific brand to use, they're free to use whatever they want. Some painters just use the brand that the chip is from....
Others have it matched into a line they're just "used-to", and/or get a discount on from their chosen store.

This is just an unfortunate fact of the re-painting industry.

In my 12 years of Retail, I've gotten damn good at tweaking colors/matches. I get many compliments on my matching!
>>>> BUT- we always tell people that EXACT simply isn't possible. We're an upscale-independent store, and handle good lines paint, including C2.

Faron

I absolutely specified the brand and was made to sign a form by the GC to that effect. I have fired the painters, but they are still claiming that I owe them for the Benjamin Moore paint they say they bought (but didn't use). I have decided to change the colour and don't have any intention of paying them for the wrong paint! Had I chosen to change the colour after they bought the right paint, I would definitely have done so.

sandy808 - I completely agree. We are doing a large renovation of our main floor. We have gone with only top notch people and have paid top dollar for everything. I shouldn't have to babysit someone doing his job.

Thanks for your support - I'll let you know what happens...

Good luck. I sympathize with your plight. I often run into similar "pro" problems.

btw, I was recently at my BM dealer and was discussing getting 1 quart vs, 2 quarts (or a gallon) for a bathroom I was doing. I asked "if I get a quart now and then decide I need a 2nd quart, what are the chances the 2nd quart will be 100% exact? and here or another BM dealer? i.e. am I safer to get a gallon now if I *might* need 2 quarts. (big $ difference obviously - Aura bath & spa). (not to mention the old school technology of mixing 2 quarts in advance to ensure consistency)

His reply was that now that BM dealers all have the new computer setup, a given color formula will ALWAYS be an exact match of a previous match. There is no human intervention so no chance for variance. (sad that robots are more precise than humans).

That reinforces my BM loyalty. (Not to say that SW doesn't have similar technology...but I know BM does)

speaking of sample boards.... I have noticed that even though I do them (gazillion years worth of samples in the basement to attest to that), putting the actual paint on the wall does give me a different take on it. I thought the beige I just selected was just the right shade of beige, pretty clean, just a hint of taupe -- Affinity Kangaroo. But after it was on the wall, lo and behold I see pink undertones. Just barely and only sometimes, so it's fine and I like the color. But it does reinforce that it is not so easy picking the perfect color!!

Good luck with getting your home painted. It will all work out in the end but it sure is stressful sometimes.

Yes, picking the right color can be difficult. I found an interior shade years ago (Milkyway) that I absolutely love. I did think about changing slightly this time around but stayed with my old tried and true.

The dealer I went to today does not have the new system yet, but I wanted to stay with the Regal Classic anyway so it was no problem. They did tell me where I could go if I wanted the Aura. It was tempting to try something new, but in the end I decided to stay with The Regal Eggshell I was familiar with. I'm sure by the time I need to repaint the Regal may no longer be available and I'll be branching out.

I am doing the painting myself.

but in the end I decided to stay with The Regal Eggshell I was familiar with.

I also wanted eggshell like always, but the Bath&Spa only comes in Matte. I ended up loving matte and will consider it in the future for non-bathrooms too. However, I would only do matte in Aura so it has the durability and washability that most flats/mattes don't have.

"hey are still claiming that I owe them for the Benjamin Moore paint they say they bought (but didn't use)."

They should have receipts and empty cans or full cans, right?

" However, I would only do matte in Aura so it has the durability and washability that most flats/mattes don't have. "

I have been told that Regal can be "scrubbed" as much as Aura.

> I have been told that Regal can be "scrubbed" as much as Aura.

Even matte? Mostly I consider eggshell and higher sheens add to washability.

I'll tell you that you can't match one brand of paint to another. The tint bases between manufacturer's will always be different: Either a bit warm, cool, etc. Who ever says they can 'match' another paint color - well that matched color will be a little more blue, or yellow, or pink, or green, etc.

I'd tell those painters to take a long walk, on a short pier!

yes.

Here is reference to a poster here who has used it. They are chefs so hard, heavy use. The paint store told me the same.

You might ask if this is the Classic or Select version, but I have read the new Select is even better. Can't always believe what you hear though.

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I don't have a 60' Wolf but I do have a 36' Caldera gas cooktop. We do a LOT of high heat wok cooking and also have a Miele built in deep fat fryer. We use all of this frequently and have done so for 7 years. We have no backsplash. Only paint on sheetrock. There has been no change at all in the quality of the painted wall since it was installed 7 yrs ago. I have BM Regal Matte paint that is scrubbable after 30 days. I regularly scrub it with a soapy dishcloth. There is no reason that you too can't have a painted backsplash . I have it throughout my kitchen. Here is only one of 100's of pics. You can see more in the albums of you click on the pic. Good Luck .c

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Here is a link that might be useful: regal matte

This post was edited by snookums2 on Fri, Jan 17, 14 at 15:36

Benjamin moores are all franchised owned. We can't talk about discrepancies between tinting when all benjamin moores are different

I believe they all use the same tint machines

There is is no way that a machine made by man will always be exactly the same between batches, normally real close but often only close. There are variances even between factory made colors. A good painter knows to always get the same "batch number"when buying several gallons of the same factory made paint color. A store tinted paint can also be the right color, but be from a different factory batch of base tint and exhibit a slightly different sheen!. All reasons to "box" your paint and don't run out in the middle of a wall.