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| Hi all,
This is a cross-post from the Home Decorating Forum. Someone there suggested that you old home lovers might have some ideas.
I'd asked on the Deco forum about leaving this ceiling as is in its mostly-stripped, distressed state instead of painting it, and the consensus is coming in to leave 'as is'. The tin has been covered for years by several layers of (no doubt lead-based) paint, and now that it is uncovered, will the tin 'patina'/age/darken further? If so, is there a sealant we can put on to keep it as it? I like its funky irregular look. Thanks for any advice. |
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- Posted by sombreuil_mongrel (My Page) on Mon, Aug 10, 09 at 18:59
| I like tin ceilings painted. After all, they were originally conceived as a substitute for decorative plaster ceilings. I once installed a 1600 sq ft tin ceiling/cornice in a victorian storefront. The tin came painted with silver primer to prevent rust during installation. I would fear that the stripping has left your ceiling vulnerable to rust. They are actually stamped steel sheets, not tin. If you don't mind me asking, how did certain areas get the blued color? Casey |
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| Most base metals ( I think base metals are the common metals used for industrial use) have a simple chemical treatment to cause them to a. get shiny Tin is metal used for battery contacts in cell phones. This is why I'll state now that I don't think the color IF you want to test a spot for ink use acetone to try to Tin remains shiny in nearly any environment as far as I Wikipedia should have an excellant reference about I don't believe it's magnetic. If you use a new style Any product you find will have an MSDS for it. Look that Look up keywords in Google like "tin brightening" Using quotes will make sure you land right on top of adding another word like the name of the chemical(s) Good luck Andre |
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- Posted by circuspeanut (My Page) on Tue, Aug 11, 09 at 11:17
| I've used Penetrol with great success on bare iron and steel that I didn't want to paint, although I don't know how/if it works with tin. Might want to check out if a simple rub of Penetrol (once you have the color you want, shiny or dull) might do the trick? |
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| Thanks everyone. Casey, I don't know about how the blued color happened. I know that there was no primer at all between the metal and the many, many layers of paint that were chipped off. There was a navy blue paint among the layers but it wasn't the first layer. I was assuming the blued color was some sort of natural darkening, enhanced or hurried along by the chemicals in the paint. Gardurnit and Circuspeanut, thanks for the info. I can do a quick acetone check and then also look into Penetrol. My husband might be more open to leaving it unpainted if he could lighten some of the darker parts, but I don't want a shiny-happy ceiling. |
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- Posted by sombreuil_mongrel (My Page) on Tue, Aug 11, 09 at 20:32
| If in doubt as to what kind of metal it is, a magnet will stick to ferrous metals (iron and steel), but not to any other metals. It is generically called "tin ceiling" but it is steel. Much in the same way that a "tin can" is also steel. Casey |
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- Posted by phantom_gardner (My Page) on Wed, Aug 12, 09 at 18:33
| The blue to yellow to tin color change is from heat. It happens alot when metals are stamped out of big machines with dies (like ceiling tiles or old tin pots and pans) and not wire brushed or rubbed off. Alot of "tin" items still have this metal color change but it is usually under some paint or enamel. If you like the color you could make the whole piece blue with a little blow torch going around in circles on the ceiling and stopping when the heat meets the color you want. The following link shows a guy doing that but with copper and it kind of shows what I am talking about. If you wanted to attempt this I would defiantly say practice on some scrap pieces before you went to town on the ceiling. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Copper flame work
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| Please don't paint this. It is SO beautiful with this patina. My sister had a tin ceiling installed in her kitchen a few years ago. To keep it as original, the company suggested she gave it a coat of clear lacquer. It worked; after more than 2 years, it is exactly as when it was first installed. Maybe you could consider this to stop any new "darkening". |
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