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| I need help. I bought both of these and now read they don't work. The wild yam is(capsules 500mg). My research shows there is no well done human studies that resulted in evidence that the estrogen like substance found in wild yam can be converted into human estrogen in the body, although some research shows it did help some women with menopausal symptoms. Conversion can be done in the lab by being chemically altered, but it's then sold as prescription form.
My OTC progesterone cream only contains 5mg per ounce and the jar is only 2 oz. The whole jar contains 10mg, vs PRESCRIPTION progesterone cream which contains 15 to 40 mg, usually applied twice daily. Doing the math, if I apply 1/2 tsp. to my skin twice daily, it seems I'm getting virtually no benefit. Plus progesterone cream is not as readily available to the body as pills. Before I return these products, I'd love some feedback from anyone who has used these OTC products. |
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| nope! Doesn't work that way actually. PRESCRIPTION progesterone cream is formulated for prevention of pregnancy. I tried already to get the doc to prescribe under the counter cream, hoping my insurance would cover it. You don't want to take that much. The doc wouldn't proscribe it for me. I know nothing of the pill, but I LOVE the cream, mine is called Menocream. You don't need much, but you can figure out a dosage that fits you, that solves your menopausal problems but doesn't turn you into an eating machine. |
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- Posted by grandmapoo (My Page) on Wed, Sep 6, 06 at 10:10
| Oh, thank you!!! I was hoping for such a reply. How much progesterone does yours contain? What symptoms has it helped? I'm in another bout of palpitations, plus can't sleep and each makes the other worse. Thanks again. :) |
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- Posted by gigi-f(gw:gigi-f) onWed, Sep 6, 06 at 11:56
| My mother uses Wild Yam cream. She has for years, and swears it helps her. I don't know if it actually has any MEDICAL benefits, but I know that her skin is still in real good shape, she's 75 and little wrinkles (genetics? probably), she looks at least 15 years younger. Does the Wild Yam cream really help? I don't know. But I know that the benefits she gets from feeling good about it, and using it, have made it a really good investment. So, my point is, maybe finding something that makes you feel good has a good benefit, too? Of course, find whatever cream or medication has a medical benefit that you need, but if the Wild Yam cream makes you feel good, go for it! |
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- Posted by grandmapoo (My Page) on Wed, Sep 6, 06 at 20:09
| Mine is wild yam capsules. My pharmacist told me the creams would be good for the skin since most also contain other good nutrients. More research turns up my progesterone cream isn't going to make a difference in the way I feel. I think I'm going to return it. |
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| Well, everyone is different. It helps my mood swings tremendously, and the itching and sweating... I wouldn't go by research... try it yourself. My gyno said it works, and they have it for pregnancy, so my humble opinion is that it COULD work if you gave it a chance. You have to give it at least a week to start working though. I threw away the box, so I don't know how much progesterone it had in there. 2oz lasts me quite awhile, but I don't need as much as the directions say. That's what I like about it, you can adjust it to your needs, where with pills, you are stuck with their dosage. |
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- Posted by grandmapoo (My Page) on Thu, Sep 7, 06 at 10:05
| I looked up your brand @ walgreens and it says: "USP Natural E Acetate 960 mg" Most say "USP natural progesterone", but if your ingredient is actually progesterone, you are rubbing in a fair amt in each small application. You got what you paid for and I don't think I did. Your information has helped tremendously and I believe you in that it works, so I'm going to return this particular brand and find one that has a greater % of progesterone, so I can use less or more and get my moneys worth. |
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| I don't know, I DO know that the natural progesterone in Wild Yam has to go through some chemical manipulation so that it can be used by the body as a progesterone. So, you got me. It also helped me with my ovarian cysts... I have had PCOS for 23 years... in the 80's I had taken what they then called the Half Pill... just progesterone... it worked, but I gained 10lbs a week! EEEEEK! So with this cream, I get the benefits with the cysts without the weight gain. BUT... I really want to stress that everyone is different.... if you don't have the same effects as me, it's not the medicines' fault. Some people claim it doesn't work for them at all. Though my personal friends use it and love it. |
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- Posted by joyce_6333 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 7, 06 at 21:34
| I've been using Estro-All (by Sarati) for about 5 years. It's now called Essential Support Treatment (EST). It is a combination of NPC with a small amount of phyto-estrogens. I am totally addicted! At first I took just the NPC, and still had the night sweats. Then tried it with the estrogens, and that was the ticket. If I don't take it for awhile, I become horribly moody, and well, a B****! It has made a huge difference in my life. I buy it on-line and get a year's supply for under $150. That's how much I depend on this product -- I buy 12 tubes at a time. This is what it contains: 960 mg of USP natural progesterone extracted from wild yam and soybean, with natural phyto-estrogens extracted from black cohash, licorice, wild yam, red clover blossom, dong quai, in a 2 ounce base of: deionized water, aloe vera gel, caprylic/capric triglycerides, polyacrylamide/c13-14, isoparaffin/laureth 7, vitamin E acetate, ethyl alcohol, grapefruit seed extract, with or without natural fragrance. |
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- Posted by grandmapoo (My Page) on Fri, Sep 8, 06 at 10:17
| Thank you ladies. :) Joyce, great info! Taking both estrogen and progesterone together is the way to go, but I've just never came across any OTC product that has the right ingredients for me (I take arthritis meds, that some herbs can effect). |
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- Posted by encourager (My Page) on Sun, Sep 17, 06 at 22:23
| I used Pro-Gest body cream by Emerita; about 1/2 tsp and rubbed it in a soft skin area, such as the inner thighs or inner arms. It sure worked for me! My doctor sold it to me then I found it much cheaper at Whole Foods. It relieved iritablity (hubby said thank you...), sore breasts, waking up at night and most important - Hot Flashes and Night Sweats! You just have to try it yourself. I gradually decreased it, used less and then less often until I quit. I went back to it two or three times and then have not used it in over a year. I threw out the box so do not know how much progesterone is in it. |
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| DHEA Facts long but very good info, read before you do any thing toyour body There are thousands of books and medical journals written on the subject of DHEA, so we will attempt to explain the facts in an easy to understand way, so you can better understand what is truth and what is fiction to help you make better choices about your health care. Dihydroepiandrosterone "DHEA" DHEA is a naturally occurring steroid hormone produced in the adrenal glands by both men and women, and it's the most abundant steroid hormone in the bloodstream. DHEA is the Mother Hormone DHEA IS CALLED THE "MOTHER HORMONE" for both men and women because it can be converted into other hormones the body needs on an as-need-be basis. For example: If your testosterone levels are too low, your DHEA hormone will naturally convert itself into more testosterone. Health Benefits DHEA is essential to sustain life, and there are numerous health benefits to having healthy levels of natural DHEA. Dr. Arthur Schwartz of the Temple University School of Medicine says that "DHEA appears to block the growth of carcinogens". DHEA levels are known to fall precipitously with age, falling 90% from age 20 to age 90. But this is only a superficial analysis, as there are many other variables involved that deplete one's DHEA levels. DHEA and the Cells The interrelationship between DHEA and the cells is obviously very important. Our cells absorb nutrition and oxygen, which feeds our DHEA, progesterone and other hormones with the fuel they need to function properly. DHEA & Progesterone Without enough natural progesterone in the body, extra stress will be put on the DHEA hormone. Synthetic DHEA Synthetic DHEA is not true DHEA, but rather a chemically altered steroid drug. The molecules in synthetic DHEA are manufactured so as to imitate a real DHEA molecule, and in some respects it does share some of the characteristics. A Closer Look at Super-Plus The difference between a DHEA Precursor and synthetic DHEA, which has been given the trade name "DHEA", is this - a DHEA precursor simply stimulates the body into producing its own natural DHEA. A precursor means a substance which precedes another substance, as in the case of a lemon stimulating saliva - a lemon could also be called a saliva precursor. Diosgenin is the Main Active Ingredient Found in Wild Yam Wild yam is known to boost natural progesterone and DHEA. Of all the different herbs, fruits and vegetables on our planet, wild yam is known to contain the highest concentration of the phytonutrients necessary for boosting the production of natural progesterone and DHEA. Obstacles to Overcome The obstacles to overcome in using natural sources of nutrition to boost DHEA include delivering sufficient amounts of the phytonutrient from the wild yam, known as diosgenin, to the bloodstream, and insuring that the cells will be clean enough to absorb it. Super-Plus has been tried & tested for Over 7 Years Thanks be to the Most High, who created our bodies in the first place, as well as all the herbs, fruits and vegetables that we consume; and thanks to several physicians, scientists, researchers and our manufacturer, who had the technology necessary to put it all together, who helped us overcome the obstacles and produce a formula that accomplished its objective. The Delivery System In order to cause the active ingredients from the wild yam to remain pure, effective and potent when it reaches the bloodstream, we had to design a new innovative delivery system that would bypass the liver on the first rapid pass so as to avoid the neutralization process which would otherwise make approximately 95% of the active ingredients ineffective. Cleansing the Cells Cleansing the cells properly is also an extremely important aspect to the success of the formula, because once we were able to get the nutrient to the metabolism, we still had to insure that the cells would be able to absorb it. Flushing out Free Radicals RED GRAPE SKIN EXTRACT is the most potent form of Proanthacyanadin (Pychnogenol) available, and as such traps hydroxyl free radicals, traps lipid peroxides and free radicals, and markedly delays the onset of lipid peroxidation. Other Benefits There are several other nutritional ingredients incorporated into our formula to aid and assist in the delivery system, cleansing of the cells, strengthening the immune system, boosting of natural DHEA and progesterone, and render many other health benefits as well. You can find them on our Super-Plus page. The True Healer Please keep in mind that Super-Plus is not the real healer. In truth it's your own healing mechanism that does it. Thank God for our incredible healing mechanisms and for all the nutritional food we need to keep our bodies healthy. The Manufacturing Process of Super-Plus is Essential There is only one manufacturer of Super-Plus, because they have the experience, technology, reputation and resources necessary to extract the purest hearts of the phytonutrients and synergistically blend the amino acids with the wild yam molecules and other essential ingredients. CONCLUSION Our Creator designed our bodies with an incredible healing mechanism. Our immune systems and hormones are nothing short of miraculous, especially when you consider all the germs, viruses, diseases and pollutants we are exposed to. Continue |
Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.levo.com/dhea_facts.htm
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| I have always heard that progesterone creams weren`t a good idea because they have very little progesterone in them and contain excipients and fillers that are harmful to the body. I use Progest-E by Dr. Ray Peat, the world`s authority on natural progesterone. This website www.longnaturalhealth.com has a lot of good information about Progest E and articles to read about Progesterone and other hormones. Good luck! |
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