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Leg Pains - Bone pains

joycevallee
18 years ago

I have been experiencing excruiating pains that seem to come right from the marrow of my bones and can actually awaken me at night. They also seem to happen if I lay on the couch, and seldom happen if I am standing.

Although I have not had a period for over 2 years these bouts of pain seem to happen on a regular 26 day cycle. It's as if the body still wants to produce the menstral blood and the marrow is working away but of course nothing is happening.

Has anyone else experienced this and what have you done for it if anything? These are not cramps but real pain like an abcessed tooth. It totally disables me for hours at a time and lasts for 3 days to a week and then is suddenly gone.

If you have had these pains do they eventually go away?

I don't take any medications except aspirin for occaissional pain and stiffness. I eat healthy and don't take any other supplements.

Any info would be appreciated, thank you.

Comments (35)

  • catherinet
    18 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Joyce,
    Have you seen your doctor for this? Do you have any other medical symptoms?
    I have also developed leg pain. Sometimes I worry about bone cancer, because it feels so deep in the bones........but I guess fractures are more of a sign of bone cancer than pain...??
    I'm thinking mine are a type of muscle spasm. I take 1200mg calcium a day, and also try to take about 500mg of Magnesium. These 2 minerals are really important to our muscles. Try those, and see if the pains ease up. Actually, you can take as much magnesium as you want, but higher doses can cause diarrhea. I think alot of us get low in magnesium.
    I'm like you..........it happens mostly when I'm laying down. I can't lay on my right side, because it makes my legs hurt so much. It seems to come and go through the month. I'll have to keep track, to see if it's cyclical. I agree with you that even though we don't have periods, there's still something inside us, cycling.
    Sometimes, for me, gentle stretching excercises help. I stand beside a big chair (with my back to an arm), and rest one leg on the chair arm. I slowly lean backwards, until I can feel my thigh muscle stretching. I hold it for 20 seconds, relax and do it again. It really helps.
    (I have something to hold onto while I'm doing these, so I don't fall over!). I hope this helps.

  • bbaird
    18 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    For years (actually, decades) that was my main PMS symptom. Not as severe as you're describing (although, severity is subjective. I have a high pain tolerance -- I feel it, but, I soldier through it), but, very, very sore -- almost like broken bones kind of aching -- deep, strong and relentless pain (like a migraine in my legs).

    I'd definitley ask a doctor, but, I'd pursue the exercise and nutrition route, too, as mentioned by CatherineT

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  • Jodi Trottier
    8 years ago

    Your story couldn't be closer to what I have been experiencing for the past 2 years. I don't have health insurance so I can't go to the doctor and experiment with tests and meds to figure it out. When I originally told my doctor he ordered a complete blood screen. When the results came back his response was, "well you don't have anything wrong with you. You are actually healthier than you should be. " what is that supposed to mean? He said if I looked at your results and numbers without knowing who they belonged to I would presume I was seeing the chart of a woman in her late 20s or early 30s. At that time I was 40. With my family's genes, the fact that I smoke, I don't drink milk or water, and I deal with a stressful lifestyle and inadequate amounts of sleep on a daily basis, I expected your numbers and levels to be all over the place and have to start you on BP meds. You should really be ecstatic! Not that wasn't all great to hear but I felt horrible like a cripple. I had always had my periods like clockwork until I turned 40 and they stopped abruptly. I have had my rubes tied for 16 years so I knew pregnancy was not the culprit. I felt like I was far too young to be menopausal. The doctor said it most likely is perimenopausal or the onset of it. Now 3 and a half years later it continues with no suffice or answers of any kind. I am so disappointed with my doctor I won't go back to discuss this continuing problem any longer and due to the pain and other issues it has caused I can guarantee my blood work is no longer amazing or even alright. I now have a severe sleeping disorder that no doctor has heard of or knows what to do about it, I have gained 75 pounds, my BP has gone from the low side of normalcy to the high side, I now am depressed, experience migraines on a daily basis, my dental health is almost null waiting to hear I need dentures, my vision has declined rapidly as well. I can't think of one aspect of my body or life that works properly. My declining health leads to mental and behavior health issues and is paying it's toll on my relationship and family. The only temporary relief I can occasionally find cause side effects that concern my doctor and family but it is a risk I am willing to test. If I allowed my doctor to take me off the few meds that marginally help life would simply not worth living. I currently can't find any happiness in life I can't fathom giving up the iota of relief that I do have. I can say for certain that the hip and thigh bone pain is 100 percent related to the onset of my period the 3 or 4 times I have them a year. Strange being that when my period was regular I had stereotypical PMS stomach crampsevery month from the time I was 16. Never at any point did I experience this type of pain or feeling. Likewise I have never again suffered from stomach cramps since this developed. It is hard to even try to discuss my current symptomatic problems with anyone because they feel that my current health state is causing my issues and suggest that my lifestyle choices have caused my own demise. They can't begin to believe that my complaints caused my current health issues. It is kind of like what came first the chicken or the egg. I know which one came first but I can see on everyone's face how leary they are to believe me rather than thinking I am making an excuse in an attempt to pass the blame. I am incredibly devistated!!! Can't believe this is what path my life has traveled down and what I have to look forward to in my glum future .


  • kathsmith1904
    8 years ago

    Thanks everyone for sharing their bone/muscle ache and painS. Helps so much. I seem to relate to most of the posts on here though at the moment. A year and 3/4 without my monthly and symptoms seem to be having a life of their own. The lower back sacro areas ,thighs plus a bit of feels like my middle of spine is stinging and sore it's horrible. I thought I had a high pain threshold but these thigh pains some nights uuugh!! I think our natural pain suppressant hormones diminish too (I think) so is this what is causing all our pains we are noticing aware of everything more is it prostaglandin. I suppose it doesn't matter really it's trying to find some way of limiting the pain isn't it. My health anxiety droves me to the brink also... Many thanks for sharing ladies

  • margienz
    8 years ago

    To the woman with the pain in her upper arm. That condition is quite common in men and women. I did that injury dragging a heavy vacuum cleaner behind me . I have an excellent osteopath. She was unable to get rid of the terrible shooting pain that I experienced when I lifted my arm. She suggested getting a specialist to inject guided cortisone halfway up on my upper arm. He got the spot accurately doing this. Screen guided cortisone is important for accuracy. My strength came back after a while, but I have to not overdo pulling vacuum cleaners etc behind me. After 10 years the lifting arm pain is reoccuring and I may have to do cortisone again I think.

    Also, like an earlier writer, I also have terrible teeth problems. Perhaps aches and pains are worse for some as we are mineral deficient, especially selenium, magnesium and calcium. My children don't have my issues, and all had fluoride as children. Strong perfect bones and teeth! They're in their 30s now. At that age I'd had achy legs and bad teeth for years!

    Mind you, I know that although I've a fairly good diet, I drink too much coffee. Depletes minerals!

  • Debbie Bingham
    8 years ago

    I have been having awful pains in my thigh bones for the last three months but recently gettin a lot worse ..only way I can describe the pain is by sayin I feel as tho someone is injecting my bones with freezing cold liquid ..even at home wen in the heat my thigh bones feel as tho they r freezing .its very sore an uncomfortable an even walkin upstairs hurts .has anyone any idea wat this could be ? I'm 46 but on my last blood test 6 mths ago I hadn't entered the change yet

  • voidstilesbae
    7 years ago

    I get the same pain I'm both my legs. It's not very often but its usually when I'm laying down. It hurts so bad that I have to bite my tongue to stop from crying. It feels like my bone is shifting in my lower leg. The scary thing is I'm only thirteen. Is this normal for someone like me?

  • margienz
    7 years ago

    I feel for you. I commented last year how I had aching leg pains since I was five or six. I should have had hot baths every night in winter when it was cold, to warm me up. I also should have had extra minerals especially magnesium at night. But my mother would rub Vicks Vaporub on my lower legs to alleviate the pain so I could sleep. She would also give me a hit water bottle to lean against my leg. The doctor diagnosed me as having Raynauds disorder but I was unsure whether this was the cause of the aching. Usually, I seem to be able to control the night aches at 62 by doing the above. My general health is pretty good and I'm very physically active at my job and at home..

    I think that you should get some blood tests at the doctor just to ensure that there is nothing major. Hopefully it's just that you are growing a lot and need more minerals. They are a bit expensive but are so important. Take care with your food and eat fresh rather than processed to get your minerals naturally. Good luck.

  • margienz
    7 years ago

    I should add added that some countries like NZ lack selenium in their soil. The deer on our property have deformed legs if they are not given extra selenium. This may have been an issue with me when I was a child as my mother never gave us extra minerals. I believe that we were mineral deficient as our poor bones and teeth displayed.


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