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Dang. Those heart flip flops are back.
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Posted by catherinet (My Page) on Fri, May 4, 07 at 22:31
Hi all,
I had my last period 3 years ago. But I still get intermittant ovary pain. I thought I finally was over having all those irregular heartbeats.......but now they're back and worse than ever. I was taking magnesium for them, but started having even worse diarrhea and stomach cramps, so I stopped it. It seems to happen right after I eat. I've had 2 stress echos in the past 6 years and they were normal. This is getting old. (and so am I...hahaha) |
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| Answering my own post so it will fade away......... |
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| Last time I was up in the middle of the night...6 months ago....I was having those "flounder floppings" in my chest. I had all of the medical tests, cardiologist, monitor, etc. I was on the computer for hours that night and found a posting about aloe vera helping the "flip flops" in the heart. I started taking one capsule a day and haven't had a problem since! I also take the calcium/magnesium combination. I hope it can work for you, because it's no fun at all. Now if I could just cope with all the other stuff. Joint pain and hot skin. The problem is, you don't know if it's a health problem or menopause symptom. I've read about joint pain and skin burning being related to change of life, but here I am...up at night going crazy! |
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| Thank you for your post w2b, I too have joint pain. Mine gets worse with eating refined sugar. My motherinlaw told me that long ago (of course I thought she was nuts). But it does go away when I get off of it. But so does some of my weight, and then my exercise comes back, then my attitude gets better. Come on....it cant be all that easy. Joint pain and sugar think I will google that. Good luck and thanks again for the post, |
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| Thanks! I might give Aloe a try. I've just gone 2 weeks without ANY ectopy. I thought it was because I gave up that 1 coke a day. But today, its starting up again. Makes me think it has something to do with my cycle ........even though I haven't had periods for 3 years. I'm going to keep track. I'll bet I'll have ectopy again for 2 weeks, then none for 2 weeks. It just has to be related to hormone fluctuations.......periods or no periods.
I have noticed that my joint pain is better off the caffeine too. Sugar definitely makes it worse.......which is really, really sad. hahaha |
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| Catherine, some folks with mitral valve prolapse (MVP) have very similar symptoms as what you describe, even the IBS. I'm just learning about this myself, as I was recently diagnosed by echocardiogram. However, some cases of mitral valve prolapse aren't detected by echocardiogram, but there are other tests that can confirm it. I've had a cluster of symptoms that apparently are not caused by the prolapse, but it's being discovered that many people who have mitral valve prolapse also have a systemic imbalance that can cause a variety of symptoms, such as palpitations, anxiety, panic attacks, IBS and many others. They don't know why people who have mitral valve prolapse sometimes have a systemic imbalance (also called dystautonomia), as there is limited research. If you google on mitral valve prolapse/dysautonomia, you will get a couple of medical centers and support groups that have more info on this. I have yet to get a medical confirmation on the dysautonomia, but I'm almost certain the results will be positive when I do. I was greatly relieved to find that palpitations can cause anxiety, versus the other way around. I tried to tell my doctor about this and I'm still not sure she gets it. It's not that I'm afraid of the palpitations or even that I'm thinking about anything negative or anxiety provoking, it's that I'll get some palpitations, and then my body is off and running in high gear. Makes it really tough to go to sleep (my palpitations occur mostly near bedtime). I read that perimenopause and menopause can often increase these symptoms. The changes you have made in diet are actually what is suggested for those with MVP/dysautonomia. Certain medications, such as antihistimines and pseudephed/ephedra will worsten symptoms as well. My dentist once used a form of novacaine that had an adrenaline-like substance in it, and I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I avoid certain nasal steroids, too, as they can trigger palps. In general, I try and stay away from all allergy and cold meds, prescription or OTC. Perhaps none of this info is pertinent to your situation, but I'm just throwing it out there. I hope it doesn't sound like gibberish, as I'm not a medical person, just someone who has been trying to do some research to better understand my health. Good luck to you. I know these irregular heartbeats can be really unsettling. Tina |
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| I have MVP too. Have experienced the panic attacks, anxiety, etc. Zoloft took care of a lot of that. You can ask the dentist to leave out the "stuff that makes your heart beat fast." I think it's epinephrine. It makes the novocaine not as long-lasting, but it's worth it. That's another thing...am I going to have a mouthful of crowns now? What is this? Planned obsolesence? I may have some questions about God's plan here! |
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Hi Tina,
Its funny that you bring this up, because I have always thought I had the symptoms of MVP and the syndrome of symptoms that seems to go with it. I've had several echos and get my heart listened to alot, and there's just no sign of MVP. But I definitely seem to fit the picture of it! Especially since perimenopause, I feel like my sympathetic nervous system is on overdrive, and I can't seem to slow it down. I was on a beta blocker for 5 years, and in many respects, it was wonderful, but I came off it last December because it made me totally dumb, hungry all the time, and I had no motivation whatsoever. But I sure miss its calming affects.
There's no way I can take those drugs either that you mentioned. And what's weird is several times, when I was at my worst during perimenopause, I had a panic attack when I was injected with novacaine at the dentists! In fact.....a similar thing would happen when I would have my eyes dilated at the opthamologists. I'm just so incredibly sensitive to those kinds of drugs.
Thanks for bringing this up Tina. I'm convinced that I have something going on, but after years of going to doctors and having tests and nothing is ever wrong.......I've sort of given up on ever feeling much better. Some weeks are good for me and some are bad.
Right now I'm trying to figure out why I'm nauseous and dizzy all the time! There's always something! Thanks again. |
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| I think I have an alter-ego out there! You sound just like me! Tylenol PM keeps me up all night. Herbal tea does the same. Oh....and cholesterol? Out the wazoo and I can't take the drugs...all of them cause bad symptoms. I can be thankful that high cholesterol is genetic in my family and we all live into our 90's, but I don't want to do that if it feels like this from here on. Back to your post...nausea...almost like being pregnant. Dizzy too. I was at a get-together last week where all the women were my age. Their joints hurt and they feel like doodoo too. I said, "I don't mean to be crass, but I'm so glad the rest of you hurt too." It just made me feel normal. This may be a time when women just need to hear, "Me too!" Sure makes ME feel better. |
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This really stinks, doesn't it want2bnormal!! Your user name is something I say to myself every day!
I haven't had a period for 3 years. I'm 57 years old, and I swear my hormones are still going nuts.
I have been severely nauseous and dizzy after I started using a CPAP machine and then had a colonoscopy. I've been thinking it was either one or the other causing problems, but yesterday, my heart didn't have ANY ectopy for 2 hole weeks, but started up again yesterday and today. And now, today, I'm having a migraine with aura......which means it HAS to be my hormones!!
I guess its time to see my OB/GYN again. I thought life was supposed to calm down after menopause started. Wrong.
I've made an appointment with my Internist too. But the last time I went to see him and I told him about my occasional ovary pain, he said "You shouldn't be having any pain. You're in menopause". hahaha Boy....he doesn't get it.
I know what you mean about feeling comfort to know you're not alone. About the only thing I remember from one of my psyche courses in college, almost 40 years ago, was the professor's comment that "misery loves miserable company". hahaha how true! So.........I'm here for you....feeling horrible right along with you! :) |
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| I'm laughing. Thanks. I think there is a great lack of knowledge about women and this stage of life. |
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I find it amazing that some women breeze through it, and some women are absolutely tormented by it. I wonder if it has something to do with blood types, or what?
Do you ever remember that short-lived comedy show called "Dinosaurs"? I remember one episode about the hurling pit. Its where you're supposed to go when you're old and useless and you're supposed to jump in.
Sometimes I think we are really supposed to hang it up, once we can't reproduce anymore. Everything falls apart then.
So let me know if you find any hurling pits. :) |
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| I was wondering where want2bnormal found the information on the Aloe Vera? Is it still working for you? Is there any more information on dosage, etc.? These heart flip flops are frightening to say the least and they seem to have just started within the last 5 months on and off! I'm thinking they are just another 'feature' of this change in life as they seem to correspond with hormonal changes. Your help is greatly appreciated! |
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My heart does flip flops when I lay down at night. I googled heart flip flops and low and behold I'm not alone.
I'm not crazy and the doctors are all wrong.
I'm 50yrs. Menopausal. No period for nearly 2 years.
Aching joints on and off, worse in the morning. Sometimes so bad just rolling over in bed is agony.
I get ovulation pains and my friend says "Your probably just constipated." Last month my breasts were swollen.
I go hyper from dentist injection. Last month I stopped coffee and tea and I have had a big improvement. This week i started having 1 cup of green tea in the morning but three days ago I had an extre cup of black tea and that night my heart was flip flopping again. My joints are sore also and my heart rate is up. I feel like I have to walk or exercise to use up the fast heart rate. If I rest I feel worse.
My doctor did thyroid function test 6 months ago and found I'm Hyperthyroid. After several months and several tests it seems my symptoms are worse when my T3 levels are high.
But I can't have treatment because it keeps returning to normal?????????????? So is Menopause causing it and the thyroid just over working to try to balance the system.
I find I am very sensitive to side effects of medication, caffiene, alcohol.
Basically Thanks everyone for posting your information because now I wont worry so much every night when my heart is doing flip flops. I have almost called an ambulance a couple of times through fear. |
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